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Linking cubase main window with project window

Post by Scouser »

This is driving me crackers !

Cubase 11 pro on windows 10

When i hit minimise on main window I want everything minimised, ie I want them to work in tandem not separately if that makes sense.

Restore ( The box in between minimise and close ) also works in a strange way rather than a typical restore which creates a smaller window the line stays across the top, the one with the menus

Just want it to work like any other program would !
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Re: Linking cubase main window with project window

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Scouser wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:46 am This is driving me crackers !

Cubase 11 pro on windows 10

When i hit minimise on main window I want everything minimised, ie I want them to work in tandem not separately if that makes sense.

Restore ( The box in between minimise and close ) also works in a strange way rather than a typical restore which creates a smaller window the line stays across the top, the one with the menus

Just want it to work like any other program would !

If I understanding you correctly, you are expecting that when you select the 'Mininmise' icon '_' you are expecting all the windows to minimise?

The thing is with Cubase, it seems as if different window objects do not behave as if glued to gether (there is Windows/Minimise All, but Restore All doesn't restore) Win + M works fine, andf then rstoring fully by clicking on the Cubase Project icon on the Taskbar. I think a lot depends on which 'windfow' has focus

Solved but not solved.......

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/solved-c ... ows/879819
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Most multi-window applications work this way IME. It's not peculiar to Cubase.
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Re: Linking cubase main window with project window

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Perhaps you are misunderstanding me due to my explanation.

The restore function on all programs that I know of behave in a similar fashion you press the square button in between minimise and close and the window becomes smaller and also allows you to click and hold and move that window wherever you like this is not happening on cubase and I am not able to move the window anywhere because the only thing that happens when clicking is the workspace becomes transparent, no other program I use does this ? I wonder if anyone understands my not too great explanation or perhaps I will have to post an image
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Yep, need to see it. I have no idea what you mean!
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Have you tried resizing the window by grabbing its edges after hitting the restore button?
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Post by Stuart79 »

FWIW, Cubase 13 behaves like this for me. There's some blurb in the release marketing about changes to window handling. No idea if the issue you're talking about has been corrected as part of that or not, but it works like that if you want it to.
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Post by Yearofthegoat »

I think they're referring to the Cubase bar that's left behind at the top of your screen when, for example, you close or minimise a project.

It also annoys me - when I close Cubase, I want it to close altogether. Instead you have to choose Quit (IIRC). Very odd.
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Yearofthegoat wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:27 am I think they're referring to the Cubase bar that's left behind at the top of your screen when, for example, you close or minimise a project.

It also annoys me - when I close Cubase, I want it to close altogether. Instead you have to choose Quit (IIRC). Very odd.

If that is what is being described then C13 would come as a welcome relief. No more bar at the top after exiting - Cubase takes you back to the hub, and from there you open a different Project, or quit Cubase.

It never bothered me as it was, but it's been addressed, so it must have bothered somebody.
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Yearofthegoat wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:27 am I think they're referring to the Cubase bar that's left behind at the top of your screen when, for example, you close or minimise a project.

It also annoys me - when I close Cubase, I want it to close altogether. Instead you have to choose Quit (IIRC). Very odd.

Yep this is kind of what I mean, driving me crackers I want the project window and main window locked together including when I minimise restore etc and never want to see whats open behind cubase ie desktop etc or whatever may be open.
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To me it behaves like another other application. You close a document and the application is there waiting in case you want to open another file. Just as if you close a doc in Word etc. It is I admit sort of confusing because you forget the bar is there.

GBut anyway, as Elfingtons writes C13 does return you to an an active area which irked me at first but over to the right, a return familiarity, open project, new project etc

For all my chundering about getting C13 licensed and activated, I do like it. We always kick out against the unfamiliarity, it must be some kind of prejudice and 'ism we have.

One thing does continue to rattle my tin and that is when you open the command to increase gain, there is considerable empty grey space and a tiny rotary control to alter the settings, why don't they make it bigger so gain changes are easier to change
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OneWorld wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:15 pm One thing does continue to rattle my tin and that is when you open the command to increase gain, there is considerable empty grey space and a tiny rotary control to alter the settings, why don't they make it bigger so gain changes are easier to change

...and the myopia-inducing 1-pixel-thick zoom controls.
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The Elf wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:12 pm
OneWorld wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:15 pm One thing does continue to rattle my tin and that is when you open the command to increase gain, there is considerable empty grey space and a tiny rotary control to alter the settings, why don't they make it bigger so gain changes are easier to change

...and the myopia-inducing 1-pixel-thick zoom controls.

Yes the irony there is you need a zoom lens to see the zoom controls!

My Cubase13 has just had its first crash, and I wasn't even using it. I had just finished a session and now eLicenser says I have no licenses - at all!!!!!!

I have done a cold re-boot including removing the dongle and replacing, still nothing
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The more irritating aspect of this is seeing through the project window to whatever is behind ?

I understand your explanations of closing a project and it being there in case you should want to open another project, it is the separation of the two windows main and project that gets confusing. I didn't experience this with the earlier iterations of cubase, whilst it was similar it retained something you could understand, or I could understand !

It would be handy to be able to upload an image but i'm even struggling to do that, clearly it's me, but it would be nice to upload an image directly to illustrate some of these points
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But, as we've said, it's resolved in C13. If it really bothers you it may be the right time to bring yourself up to date.
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We don't host images here so you need to use one of the 3rd party image hosting sites to get your image online.

Once you have done that there is a guide to uploading those images to the forum here...

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... hp?t=75253

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Elf, would you be able to explain this C13 as I'm not entirely sure, I couldn't see in the post if you have already done that ?
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Scouser wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:28 pm Elf, would you be able to explain this C13 as I'm not entirely sure, I couldn't see in the post if you have already done that ?

When you exit from Cubase 13 now it goes back to the Cubase Hub for you to quit, or open another Project. No more Windows bar left running.
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Sorry Elf I should have said I am running Cubase 11 pro I only scratch the surface of what it can do and felt another upgrade would be a bit of a waste unless someone convinces me otherwise. They are offering me an upgrade price of £118 Thoughts ?

So would that mean that C13 is not an option for me ?
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Scouser wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:23 am Sorry Elf I should have said I am running Cubase 11 pro I only scratch the surface of what it can do and felt another upgrade would be a bit of a waste unless someone convinces me otherwise. They are offering me an upgrade price of £118 Thoughts ?

So would that mean that C13 is not an option for me ?

I upgraded and have found C13 acceptable at least. I was upgrading from C12 so a lot less money spent. Many improvements in C13 could possibly be achieved by creating your own macros. Except the GUI and that is a vast improvement on previous versions. Overall I would recommend it, but be aware, I for one tussled with the activation, it is shambolic and I have held onto my dungle (it has other Steinberg products anyway) and I have Cubase 8,10,11 licenses on my dangle, I would feel lost at sea without them because I feel C13 is an immature product, it's hardly been a barrel of laughs in my experience and my experience is reflected on the Steinberg forums. In fairness, others have had a flawless and smooth installation and transition. But if you are like me, if something can go wrong it will, a disaster looking for somewhere to happen, trouble always rains down on man already wet person, then fasten your seatbelt and go for it. You've always got the other version on your dingle.
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Up to you. Personally I don't sit on old versions of software, and there are significant advantages in C13 for me, so I'm not the best person to ask.
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OneWorld wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:31 pm You've always got the other version on your dingle.

Hold on. I thought that moving from a USB eLicenser to Steinberg License meant just that; your old license will be moved to the new system and removed from the dongle?
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sonics wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:42 pm
OneWorld wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:31 pm You've always got the other version on your dingle.

Hold on. I thought that moving from a USB eLicenser to Steinberg License meant just that; your old license will be moved to the new system and removed from the dongle?

Sorry, clarification. I have several licences on the Dongle, say 6, 8 but they weren't used for upgrading, and of course they came with their own dangles, so I just transferred them across to the one USB

So yes you are correct, I have just checked the Dongle and the 10,11 which I had used for upgrading have gone.

Strewth, there's someone on eBay asking £220 for Cubase 6.5 I still have a copy of that sat collecting dust, with the licence on its own USB
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OneWorld wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:29 pm Strewth, there's someone on eBay asking £220 for Cubase 6.5 I still have a copy of that sat collecting dust, with the licence on its own USB

Ah yes, you had multiple licenses. I remember now! :)
A full Pro version, not educational, with license on a USB key is a good solid bet for at least £150, I'd have thought?
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Thanks for that oneworld it helps, I am being offered an upgrade directly from Steinberg for £118 I don't know if that represents good value, one thing I have heard is that midi controller integration is a lot more straight forward, if this means my Maschine Mikro Mk3 will be easier to configure without having to go around the houses with clunky current set up with NI software talking to cubase it may be of interest
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