The old Win XP driver for Behringer Xenyx Q802

[voiceknight]

I purchased a Behringer Xenyx Q802 for a pretty good deal on Ebay. It came with no driver disc, but as I am finding out even today it probably would not have come with the old Windows XP SP3 driver. This is a very tough one. I have tried 6 drivers so far (3 from Behringer) and none of them work. If anyone in the S on S community possesses a copy of the XP pro driver from the early to mid 2000's I'd be much obliged if we could arrange for you to send it to me. My DAW is Sound Forge 8 and I absolutely love it. I can't bear the thought of starting over with Windows 10. Help me, help me!

[forumuser912922]

I used to use Behringer's Xenyx and BCA2000 and although it was a while ago, I'm pretty sure Behringer's drivers will only work with SP1.

[ef37a]

It may have come with an XP 'mini' disc but I have never had that mixer. I have a basic Xenyx 802, been running two mics from my garden since 2012 non stop!

Have you tried ASIO4ALL? That works for my UCA202 which I would guess is about the same era? In fact if you cannot get '4all' to work, buy a 202, I find mine is actually cleaner than the old 16 bit mixer converters.

I no longer have an XP computer, sorry!

Dave.

[DGL.]

I uploaded the driver to GS and a link to it is here, provides proper ASIO drivers for what appears to be all the 16bit Behringer interfaces.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachm ... 2.8.40.zip

[voiceknight]

I want to thank you guys for chiming in and trying to help me. And thanks DGL for the link. I will try it, but the way things have gone I don't have much hope. As a last resort I took the L/R mains out of the Q802 and plugged them into the input of a Behringer UFO202 which has been working with my XP setup for a few years now. Result... it works, but has an almost 50db noise floor. I checked connections and put a ground wire onto the 202, but no change. Does anyone know of a simple line level (no XLR mic inputs) USB interface that will work cleanly with Windows XP SP 3?

[ef37a]

I want to thank you guys for chiming in and trying to help me. And thanks DGL for the link. I will try it, but the way things have gone I don't have much hope. As a last resort I took the L/R mains out of the Q802 and plugged them into the input of a Behringer UFO202 which has been working with my XP setup for a few years now. Result... it works, but has an almost 50db noise floor. I checked connections and put a ground wire onto the 202, but no change. Does anyone know of a simple line level (no XLR mic inputs) USB interface that will work cleanly with Windows XP SP 3?

Reet matey! You have I am sure, fallen foul of the 'Dreaded Cheapo, 16 bit USB Noise Monster".
You need to get int Windows Sounds and Devices and I confess I no longer remember what that looks like in XP! However, find the UF0202 and ensure it is the default record/play device. Now find "Level" for input and you will I am sure find it slammed to 100%. Set that to 5 (yes, f i v e ) %
Leave Playback at 100%.

You should now get a 'no input' noise floor of around 85dBfs. Not Prism I admit but really 10dB better than almost anything you try to record.

Do note, the 202 devices are 16 bits but also -10dBV devices and thus 0dBfs equates to about 1 volt rms. The mixer will easily overload it but keep the meters around -20VU and you should be able to make very decent recordings. Much more than good enough for say tape or vinyl dubbing. Should you be thinking of a new interface the Behringer UMC range are really astoundingly good for their price. I have used the UMC204HD. Since you have the mixer a 404HD would give you 4 discrete mic channels.

Dave.

[DGL.]

I want to thank you guys for chiming in and trying to help me. And thanks DGL for the link. I will try it, but the way things have gone I don't have much hope. As a last resort I took the L/R mains out of the Q802 and plugged them into the input of a Behringer UFO202 which has been working with my XP setup for a few years now. Result... it works, but has an almost 50db noise floor. I checked connections and put a ground wire onto the 202, but no change. Does anyone know of a simple line level (no XLR mic inputs) USB interface that will work cleanly with Windows XP SP 3?

On the UFO make sure that if you recording a line level input that the Phono-Line switch is set to Line, the audio will be terrible if not, plus make sure it's also not selected if you are only using it as an output device with no phono input connected as that can also cause issues.

[voiceknight]

Hey Dave, That sounds so darn logical! I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it goes. An 85db noise floor sounds good enough for pro voiceover work don't you think? And will the Behringer UMC204HD work with my antiquated Win XP setup? The reason I bought the Q802 is because it has three band EQ and that simple compressor. It's a shame that I can't use it's USB interface. I guess the UMC204HD doesn't have the EQ and compressor that the 802 does.

[ef37a]

Hey Dave, That sounds so darn logical! I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it goes. An 85db noise floor sounds good enough for pro voiceover work don't you think? And will the Behringer UMC204HD work with my antiquated Win XP setup? The reason I bought the Q802 is because it has three band EQ and that simple compressor. It's a shame that I can't use it's USB interface. I guess the UMC204HD doesn't have the EQ and compressor that the 802 does.

No the 204 does not have EQ, Comp' or pan but you can feed the mixer into the line inputs of the interface and enjoy the effect. Or, and I think most people do this, you could record "dry and flat" and use the DAW software to sweeten things afterwards? Especially with a modern AI and 24 bits you will have such a vast dynamic range, electronically about 100dB (but you will never get your room that quiet!) that you will not need compression 'going in'.

As to whether the 204 will work on XP I don't know but would think so. Maybe the ASIO drivers won't work but since you don't need blindingly fast latency for VO work (?)) Windows generic USB audio drivers should be ok.

Dave.

[voiceknight]

Hi Dave, I tried audio in the xp control panel. Both recording and playback are set to USB Audio CODEC, but on recording the volume and advanced buttons are grayed out. The Sound Forge record window has only Microsoft Sound Mapper listed... is that perhaps a clue as to what is being recognized and what is not. I'm so close thanks to you and yet so far.

[ef37a]

https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advi ... und-mapper

Martin seems to tell us here ^ that you can use Sound Mapper but ASIO drivers are best for low latency but as I said before, I doubt latency is a problem for you?

Another kludge is to record with Audacity, that works for and on just about anything then you can export as a .wav file and insert into Sound Forge and carry on. Bit of a faff I know but this is what happens when you are trying to avoid upgrading an OS!

Old or updated software, legacy hardware. Night mare! Been there, most of us have.

BTW Sound Forge is still available, MAGIX bought it so should you make the leap to Win ten.....?

Dave.

[ef37a]

I have had a silly thought and I know all you top boffs will tell me off but.

I have an old E systems laptop with Win 7 on it. I would like, just for the craic, to put XP on it.

Can I buy a reliable copy of XP and if so can I still get it activated?

Dave.

[James Perrett]

If you want to play with XP then it would probably be better to create an XP virtual machine in Windows 7. I think Windows 7 came with tools to do that.

[voiceknight]

In my frustration I took the Q802 up to my Apple workstation. I have tried and tried to find the Mac driver and it is impossible. When I bought this USB mixer what did I get myself into?Everyplace on the web I am taken to a sales pitch instead of a driver source. The Behringer site lists the driver download, but when you click on it you get other things that are unrelated to the driver download. What the heck is going on. I would think that Behringer would want every user of their products to easily find what they are looking for.

[Mike Stranks]

I think you're going to face an increasingly difficult time if you don't want to upgrade from XP.

Can you tell us a little more about how you want to use the kit you have? Is it music recording, spoken word or something else? And are you doing this as a hobby/interest or to earn a living?

Thanks!

[Wonks]

This is the latest version of ASIO4ALL (V2.14) I could find that supports XP. If you haven't tried it with the Xenyx, then I suggest you give it a go.

https://www.asio4all.org/downloads_11/A ... nglish.exe

And make sure that the ASIO4ALL driver is selected in your software. Just loading it onto your PC won't be enough.

[ef37a]

If push comes to shove, buy a UCA 202. I no longer have an XP machine to try mine on but I am sure it will work.

Even if you got the 802 to work, being a very early, 16 bit USB interface it is sure to suffer from the dreaded "16 bit USB whine". The 202, despite being 16 bit seems not to.

Dave.

[James Perrett]

Even if you got the 802 to work, being a very early, 16 bit USB interface it is sure to suffer from the dreaded "16 bit USB whine". The 202, despite being 16 bit seems not to.

I think it depends Dave - my UCA222 certainly suffers from a whine (which are possibly idle tones) sometimes but not all the time. Mine has a date code of 1704 (April 2017 as I understand it).

[ef37a]

Even if you got the 802 to work, being a very early, 16 bit USB interface it is sure to suffer from the dreaded "16 bit USB whine". The 202, despite being 16 bit seems not to.

I think it depends Dave - my UCA222 certainly suffers from a whine (which are possibly idle tones) sometimes but not all the time. Mine has a date code of 1704 (April 2017 as I understand it).

Have you got Windows Record Gain set to 5% or less James? That should push any whine below 'source' noise, especially those horrible 305mm black things!

Dave.

[Drew Stephenson]

My 1202 didn't suffer from that whine.