Reamping doesn't seem to work with drive pedals for me
Re: Reamping doesn't seem to work with drive pedals for me
So recording at a much lower level made it work 100 percent better. With my Timmy pedal, the output is identical. With my Joyo OCD type pedal, it was very close and with a little EQ it was also identical. My current theory is that I was clipping the interface outputs. I think they were turned up too loud in my interfaces mixer software and me recording at a lower level made it so it didn't clip the outputs. Thanks so much for your help.
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Re: Reamping doesn't seem to work with drive pedals for me
That's very good news.
The passive DI box impedance will be affecting the guitar signal a bit, so I'd look into getting an active one with at least a 500k input impedance.
A DI box is designed to convert an unbalanced line-level signal to a balanced mic-level signal. A mic-level signal is around 40dB less than a line-level signal.
A guitar level signal sits roughly in-between a line and a mic level signal, at about 20dB less than a line level signal. As a result, the DI signal is then about 20dB less than a mic level signal when it comes out of a typical DI box. Most mic pre-amps have enough gain to make this up, but more gain means an increase in noise, so it is best not to have to use a DI box that drops the signal level by 40dB or so, and the mic pre then having to raise it by an extra 20dB.
So if you want to improve your recorded guitar sound further, I'd have a look round at DI boxes designed specifically for passive guitar and bass use, with an input impedance in the 1 megohm region (or at least 500k). It's not something I've looked into in any great detail, and have no experience of the more expensive products. But looking round, Warm Audio do a Direct Box Active with a 1 meg input impedance and variable attenuation level. If you were in the UK, the Orchid Electronics products are often highly recommended in this forum.
The passive DI box impedance will be affecting the guitar signal a bit, so I'd look into getting an active one with at least a 500k input impedance.
A DI box is designed to convert an unbalanced line-level signal to a balanced mic-level signal. A mic-level signal is around 40dB less than a line-level signal.
A guitar level signal sits roughly in-between a line and a mic level signal, at about 20dB less than a line level signal. As a result, the DI signal is then about 20dB less than a mic level signal when it comes out of a typical DI box. Most mic pre-amps have enough gain to make this up, but more gain means an increase in noise, so it is best not to have to use a DI box that drops the signal level by 40dB or so, and the mic pre then having to raise it by an extra 20dB.
So if you want to improve your recorded guitar sound further, I'd have a look round at DI boxes designed specifically for passive guitar and bass use, with an input impedance in the 1 megohm region (or at least 500k). It's not something I've looked into in any great detail, and have no experience of the more expensive products. But looking round, Warm Audio do a Direct Box Active with a 1 meg input impedance and variable attenuation level. If you were in the UK, the Orchid Electronics products are often highly recommended in this forum.
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Re: Reamping doesn't seem to work with drive pedals for me
+1 Good news.
With a little bit of tweaking here and there I think you are now on the right path. Again, compare and make adjustments until you have a system that you can reliably return to in future.
The trick is to ensure that the signal you generate from your DAW is as close as possible identical to the signal that would come from your guitar.
And to explain what I said above... 're-amping' is generally about re-doing the process of sending a guitar's pickup signal back to its amp for re-recording, just as if it were being played again at source - hence the phrase. That's not a good description of sending a vocal, for example, to some guitar pedals, where no 'amp' (or, indeed, any sense of 're') is likely to be involved.
With a little bit of tweaking here and there I think you are now on the right path. Again, compare and make adjustments until you have a system that you can reliably return to in future.
The trick is to ensure that the signal you generate from your DAW is as close as possible identical to the signal that would come from your guitar.
And to explain what I said above... 're-amping' is generally about re-doing the process of sending a guitar's pickup signal back to its amp for re-recording, just as if it were being played again at source - hence the phrase. That's not a good description of sending a vocal, for example, to some guitar pedals, where no 'amp' (or, indeed, any sense of 're') is likely to be involved.
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