HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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Looks like I will stick with the absolute 2s in a room, and monitors I know well. For the end mix I will use the Shure headphones.
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It's the boring option but probably makes sense.
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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For now at least unless someone would take a commission on designing/treating my room :D
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Marbury wrote:For now at least unless someone would take a commission on designing/treating my room :D

Dare I mention that most online acoustic treatment manufacturers will happily provide free recommendations based on your room dimensions and a quick sketch of where you intend to place your gear?

You've got nothing to lose by asking advice from the professionals! :thumbup:

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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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RichardT wrote:Room correction software can only get you so far - actually not that far at all! Although it will adjust the frequency balance, it won’t affect how long your room will resonate. This is what causes most of the blurring at lower frequencies. It also won’t do anything to deal with reflected sound.

In my experience, once you've got sufficient acoustic treatment to get your room frequency response to have peaks and troughs no bigger than 6dB from the baseline, room correction software can make a significant improvement to the final result.

However, room correction software can never totally correct for an untreated room, so it's an enhancement rather than cure-all.

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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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Martin Walker wrote:
Marbury wrote:For now at least unless someone would take a commission on designing/treating my room :D

Dare I mention that most online acoustic treatment manufacturers will happily provide free recommendations based on your room dimensions and a quick sketch of where you intend to place your gear?

You've got nothing to lose by asking advice from the professionals! :thumbup:

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I mentioned this in an earlier post... I even included a URL link that took you straight to a manufacturer's "We can help you" page.

You can take a horse to water... :)
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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Martin Walker wrote:
RichardT wrote:Room correction software can only get you so far - actually not that far at all! Although it will adjust the frequency balance, it won’t affect how long your room will resonate. This is what causes most of the blurring at lower frequencies. It also won’t do anything to deal with reflected sound.

In my experience, once you've got sufficient acoustic treatment to get your room frequency response to have peaks and troughs no bigger than 6dB from the baseline, room correction software can make a significant improvement to the final result.

However, room correction software can never totally correct for an untreated room, so it's an enhancement rather than cure-all.

Martin

Yes I agree!
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Another +1 for "TREAT THE ROOM"... Been their bought the tee shirt, the difference is night and day :thumbup:
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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But again, my room does not have any way of accommodating big sound traps anywhere, and I don't have the luxury of an extra room to play with. I think egg boxes are the way to go, and I read in Mike Oldfield's biography that it worked for his his first home studio in Hergest Ridge and we all know what a perfectionist with production he was.
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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Marbury wrote:But again, my room does not have any way of accommodating big sound traps anywhere, and I don't have the luxury of an extra room to play with. I think egg boxes are the way to go, and I read in Mike Oldfield's biography that it worked for his his first home studio in Hergest Ridge and we all know what a perfectionist with production he was.

Fair enough...

In that case, the answer to your original question is, "No", but in your situation neither are any monitors over about £500 for the pair. You simply won't reap their benefits.

You don't need "big sound traps". You want an effective form of acoustic control; the two are not synonymous.

As a final forlorn attempt... https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/diy-acoustic-treatment-15-minute-challenge
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

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Egg boxes - I think Marbury may be gently trolling us. ;)
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