HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

[Marbury]

...for the same reason that I wouldnt use rockwool panels to carry food around.

Oh... so shouldn't I be doing that then?

It's just that I had some left over and I didn't want to pay 10p for the bags...

Ok, you've all had your fun with me. But seriously, I appreciate all the help and advise and will take on board the home made solution as I like a bit of DIY and would rather spend as much as I can on the monitors. How big to make the paneling a small room is uncertain but perhaps a large one on the ceiling, and two small on each wall would probably do the trick.

[Luke W]

Ok, you've all had your fun with me. But seriously, I appreciate all the help and advise and will take on board the home made solution as I like a bit of DIY and would rather spend as much as I can on the monitors. How big to make the paneling a small room is uncertain but perhaps a large one on the ceiling, and two small on each wall would probably do the trick.

It's certainly worth it if you don't mind the work. You've got the right approach, even just three panels in the positions you mention will make a big difference. Acoustics is an incredibly complex subject but just by doing the basics you can usually get a decent result rather quickly, it's getting from "good enough" to "perfect' that gets a lot more involved.

In terms of size, if you can try to plan for anything that the size of your chosen filling (Rockwool or whatever) divides equally into then you'll be getting the most for your money. Apologies if that sounds rather obvious...

Sam, Drew and myself have all got recent(ish) threads in the DIY section showing how we've built panels for our rooms, and there have been others in the past as well.

[Hugh Robjohns]

As is very evident from all of the published Studio SOS articles, a small amount of very basic acoustic treatment makes a HUGE difference to the perceived sound quality in the room, even with modest speakers.

[Sam Spoons]

Just to reinforce the comments above, the first three or four panels at the mirror points (side walls, ceiling and rear wall if it's close) will get you 70% of the way there.

[Marbury]

The HEDD Mk 2 is the one I think I will go for, and later get the treatment sorted. I will add that my room is about 11 x 9 ft.

[Eddy Deegan]

As is very evident from all of the published Studio SOS articles, a small amount of very basic acoustic treatment makes a HUGE difference to the perceived sound quality in the room, even with modest speakers.

I can also echo this from personal experience. For the last 25 years+ I've worked on 'home studio' music in a variety of environments and steadily built my equipment over that time. In the last 3 years or so I've visited various people with treated home-based environments, a number of whom are forum regulars, and the difference in the listening experience was borderline unbelievable to me.

It was in no small part this realisation which kicked off my big home studio project that I'm now in the midst of!

[Hugh Robjohns]

The HEDD Mk 2 is the one I think I will go for, and later get the treatment sorted. I will add that my room is about 11 x 9 ft.

...And the circle is complete: we return to page 1 of 4!

[The Korff]

If you can wait a month or two, monitor guru Phil Ward has just received some of the HEDD MkII series monitors, and we'll be publishing the review soon. (We'd hoped to get them in advance of their official announcement but shipping was delayed by Brexit.)

Cheers,

Chris

[Marbury]

If you can wait a month or two, monitor guru Phil Ward has just received some of the HEDD MkII series monitors, and we'll be publishing the review soon. (We'd hoped to get them in advance of their official announcement but shipping was delayed by Brexit.)

Cheers,

Chris

Ok, thanks for that.

[atswim2birds]

This is kinda off topic but here goes...

Recently bought a pair of Hedds Sys20 MK2 and have fallen seriously in love with the sound. (I've never tried 310's.)

But after week I have serious issues with the mode-switching function, the auto standby. The monitors seems to have a mind of their own about this, sometimes they go to sleep after 1/2 an hour of silence as expected, sometimes one of them will stay awake and the other goes to sleep, I also get loud pops out of the L channel when it goes into standby but not out of the R channel.

I'm alarmed and a bit wary. Naturally I've started a discussion with Support at Hedd. We'll see. In the meantime I'm wondering if the MK1's were super reliable, plagued with any such issues? Is the upgraded system any real improvement. The move to a digital system seems a big price to pay for having a Linearizer on board?

Does anyone agree or totally differ?

Interesting to see the 310's so highly recommended by Hugh R.

[akaspeedy505]

I’ve the mk2’s and don’t think there is an auto standby mode, never did it on mine and nothing in the manual about it unless I missed it…!??

[Hugh Robjohns]

I’ve the mk2’s and don’t think there is an auto standby mode, never did it on mine and nothing in the manual about it unless I missed it…!??

Time to visit Specsavers!

"The monitors automatically jump into stand-by after 30 minutes. They wake back up when audio is played."

[akaspeedy505]

I don’t have the required permissions to view the image lmao, but I’m on the manual now and still can’t see it…..lol

And I do wear glasses hehe

[akaspeedy505]

Lmao, how the hell did I miss that, just found it lol

[akaspeedy505]

May need to consider bi-focals lol

[Drew Stephenson]

May need to consider bi-focals lol

It comes to us all in time.

[Hugh Robjohns]

The monitors seems to have a mind of their own about this, sometimes they go to sleep after 1/2 an hour of silence as expected, sometimes one of them will stay awake and the other goes to sleep, I also get loud pops out of the L channel when it goes into standby but not out of the R channel.

Loud pops from only one speaker suggests a fault in that speaker.

Staying 'awake could also be a fault (is it the same speaker that pops?)... but more usually is because of low level noise on the input cable, often occasional interference clicks, for example.

Or it could be that the input signal detection threshold is set lower (sometimes an internal adjuster) and its therefore more sensitive to interference.

As an experiment, it would be worth disconnecting the input cables to the speakers to see if they then enter standby at roughly the same time (a minute or two between their switch off times is acceptible). That might indicate if the issue is incoming noise on the cables...

Interesting to see the 310's so highly recommended by Hugh R.

Old school traditional analogue, but superbly engineered and outstanding value for money IMHO.

[mattatec]

I just auditioned these boxes against each other at KMR Audio in London.

They have a very decent listening room and I fully recommend these guys if you're looking to buy new monitors. They give a top notch service.

I spent 3 hours in this process to decide my next speaker, I listened to everything from folk music to edm and my findings are such.

The KH310 is probably the best resolving in the bass end and is really impressive as a closed boxed speaker. It's also very pure in mids to top and sounds much like my Sennheiser HD650 which I love.

The Hedd 20 Mk2 are tighter and more lazer focused. They don't have the fun bottom end that the 310's have.

With pop/folk music I found the the KH310 performed excellent and for dance music, the bottom end was amazing.
The Hedds performed very well in pop and folk with voicing slightly more forward.

In dance music I felt the bottom end was tight and that meant more accuracy was given to the mid range.

I noticed with the KH310 dance music/heavy bass music the bottom end slightly overwhelmed the low mids a bit compared to the Hedds, this could also be room dependent.

I've asked KMR to send me the HEDD 20 for review in my studio.
They are both amazing speakers and I'm coming from Adam monitors so that may also skew my opinion.

I'm looking forward to testing the HEDDs next week in my room.

[Sam_Sawling]

This is kinda off topic but here goes...

Recently bought a pair of Hedds Sys20 MK2 and have fallen seriously in love with the sound. (I've never tried 310's.)

But after week I have serious issues with the mode-switching function, the auto standby. The monitors seems to have a mind of their own about this, sometimes they go to sleep after 1/2 an hour of silence as expected, sometimes one of them will stay awake and the other goes to sleep, I also get loud pops out of the L channel when it goes into standby but not out of the R channel.

I'm alarmed and a bit wary. Naturally I've started a discussion with Support at Hedd. We'll see. In the meantime I'm wondering if the MK1's were super reliable, plagued with any such issues? Is the upgraded system any real improvement. The move to a digital system seems a big price to pay for having a Linearizer on board?

Does anyone agree or totally differ?

Interesting to see the 310's so highly recommended by Hugh R.

I've arrived here after googling HEDD mk2 failures with these relatively new monitors.
My 2nd HEDD 05 mk2 has just failed 1 month after the first one, luckily i'm just within warranty but totally nervous now about the future of these things.
The first one suddenly started emitting loud white noise type sound then just died. Recieved a replacement maybe a month ago and so far so good, it comes out of sleep much quicker and more reliably than the previous one and no loud clicks when turned on.
The second one made a loud click when turned on and today has died, green light is lit but no sound.
Previously Seb at HEDD said it must have been a DSP hardware failure.
Don't have any other problems in my studio with power or RF so i'm sort of glad the 2nd monitor has died as it's obviously a fault with the HEDD's.
I love the sound of them but this is not acceptable.

Anyone else have similar experience or did i just get a bad batch ?

[Ssnakeingrass]

I've had a pair of HEDD 07 Mk2 for about a year now. Love the sound, there very detailed speakers and I acutally love used them closed ported. Both speakers on seperate occasions have died on me now. Green lights turn on so not a power problem, but the speakers make no sound. Another one is sitting in the factory in Germany as we speak. It's pretty concerning after a year as what happens when my warrenty runs out. Speakers should last 10-20 years easily with little to no problems. The speakers are fantastic and i'm not sure how widespread these problems are but for a £1500 set its frustrating to say the least.

[texturerama]

I've had a pair of HEDD 07 Mk2 for about a year now. Love the sound, there very detailed speakers and I acutally love used them closed ported. Both speakers on seperate occasions have died on me now. Green lights turn on so not a power problem, but the speakers make no sound. Another one is sitting in the factory in Germany as we speak. It's pretty concerning after a year as what happens when my warrenty runs out. Speakers should last 10-20 years easily with little to no problems. The speakers are fantastic and i'm not sure how widespread these problems are but for a £1500 set its frustrating to say the least.

Hi, new to the SOS forum since I just made an account to join this discussion.
I loved my HEDD Type 07 Mk 2's but one of them just died on me. Green light went dim on power-up and now it's mute.

I bought them new from Thomann less than a year ago (November 21).

How was HEDD support? Did they give you a hard time? Did you send yours in for servicing or were they just replaced outright?

You're right, it's extremely disconcerting that this is an issue that affects people given how expensive they are.

[Marbury]

Well, it's 18 months or so since I posted this question and I kind of made a decision to go for the smaller Hedd type 7, given my room is small and I can monitor nearfield without having to treat the room. BUT, having read the latest posts regarding them failing I am reluctant to pull the trigger.

So here I still am with my very flaky Spirit Absolute Poos and Samson servo 170 with crumbling plastic connectors at the rear.

Perhaps Hugh's initial recommendation of the Neuman's is the way forward, even with an untreated room (for now at least)

Or is there something better ?

[Sam_Sawling]

After my nightmare with the HEDD's i went for the KH310's and i couldn't be happier.

[Marbury]

Glad it worked out for you in the end. Would you say they sound as good as the HEDDs?