ef37a wrote:I do not have access to the deep insights to Chinese and US societies that Mr World seems to enjoy but I can report the findings of my grandson who spent six months in Tien Jin as part of his Mandarin graduate course (yes, he graduated in that and Spanish)
He told us there were no gay people, no disabled people and every family was a 'nuclear' heterosexual unit of "1.4 kids". Almost no dissent or debate and he was 'shushed' many times and told "we don't talk about that".
He never wants to go back and has found a teaching post in English, French and Spanish here, near The Smoke'.
Dave.
"I do not have access to the deep insights to Chinese and US societies" Seems like you spent too long looking at the Sun, not good, it blinds you.
BTW - I too spent time in China, and I too spent time in Spanish speaking countries - Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras and Colombia. Whilst I was in Costa Rica I was told before going to Nicaragua that I should should not go there, that it was "An evil communist totalitarian regime, I will see babies heads on spears and other horrid things" I was also threatened at gunpoint, for being a commie loving traitor.
And guess what, when I got to Nicaragua, I found they were some of the friendliest, hard working, compassionate people I have ever encountered.
Of course that doesn't align with the Fox News/Murdoch propaganda, but guess what, I don't care, I only know what I see, not what I am told.
I went to China, and as I said in my text "Is China perfect? - no" but can a woman walk the streets at night unmolested - yes, are teenagers getting stabbed in the 100's? no, are the streets littered with the homeless? no, are ex-soldiers who have fought for their country abandoned, suffering PTSD etc - no
I learned this much on my travels, co-operation and dialogue kills less people than conflict and making enemies, enemies are no use to anyone, they don't buy our goods.
And Tien Jin?
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Tourism-g ... tions.html
Looks awful doesn't it? When in China did your son see any police kneeling on the neck of a detainee, squeezing the life out of that detainee?
And here's something for you to chew on - which country has had the police force that is responsible for its capital city described as 'Institutionally Racist' and 'Institutionally Corrupt' ? You don't need deep insight to know that