
Either Eb -- Eb G Bb
or D# -- D# F## A#
blinddrew wrote:You see stuff like this is why people give up on music theory!
blinddrew wrote:You're already over my head Ben, I'm not even keeping up with Merlyn's spelling!
I mean, why isn't F## just G?
You don't need to answer this, I'm not trying to drag the thread off topic!
blinddrew wrote:Sorry but you lost me at 'pitch class'.
I think this is part of the problem with coming at this, ahem, later in life. There is a whole lexicon that you have to learn as well as the conceptual side.
blinddrew wrote:Sorry but you lost me at 'pitch class'.
GilesAnt wrote:blinddrew wrote:Sorry but you lost me at 'pitch class'.
He basically means the lettered notes, C D E etc.
Every maj/min scale must contain every letter (pitch class) from A to G. Each letter must be present but only once. So the scale of F cannot be F G A A sharp C etc. Here the letter A is used twice and the B is missing. So it has to be F G A B flat C etc.
Each letter can be modulated by the sharp or flat symbol, or even a double sharp/flat but each letter must still be present, once only.
blinddrew wrote:You're already over my head Ben, I'm not even keeping up with Merlyn's spelling!
I mean, why isn't F## just G?
You don't need to answer this, I'm not trying to drag the thread off topic!
For the record, I'm not proud of this and my ignorance isn't something I've set out to preserve, it's just having been pretty much self-taught as a musician*, and primarily on guitar, I've just never engaged with the music theory side of things and I fear I'm a bit of a lost cause now.
I'm sure if I were to dedicate the hours to it I could pick up the basics, but there are other things I would rather be dedicating my hours to!
* I use this word very loosely!
GilesAnt wrote:blinddrew wrote:Sorry but you lost me at 'pitch class'.
He basically means the lettered notes, C D E etc.
Every maj/min scale must contain every letter (pitch class) from A to G. Each letter must be present but only once. So the scale of F cannot be F G A A sharp C etc. Here the letter A is used twice and the B is missing. So it has to be F G A B flat C etc.
Each letter can be modulated by the sharp or flat symbol, or even a double sharp/flat but each letter must still be present, once only.
Wurlitzer wrote:This is such an important principle and so often overlooked. It's easier to understand if you put it on manuscript (I could probably draft something and upload it but don't have time right now). You write a SCALE on the stave by going line - space - line - space - line - space etc. You can look at that and see immediately that each note is one step up the scale from the previous one. Which ones are flats, naturals or sharps is then a secondary consideration. But if you write a scale that goes line - space - line - same line again - (skip the next space) - line, it looks wrong. At first glance, it looks like a note is repeated and then followed by a skip. You have to stop and analyse the accidentals to work out that's not the case.
Frank Rideau wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:17 pm I came up with a chords progression, liked it and built a song around it.
It goes:
G#m - C#m - Bmaj7 - G#m - E - A - G#m
Do not want to overthink it but I was curious to understand what is the key/mode of this.