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Last group of photos showed a squeezebox and an unsolved Rubics cube.
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What do you think the padding on the wall is really for?
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Only slightly related to torture -
Is this worse than actors miming be able to play guitar on tv? Two bagpipers on tv who have the mouth moves correct but couldn’t make their fingers mime Amazing Grace in time.
Sure, sure, blame the picture editor!
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Only slightly related to torture -
Is this worse than actors miming be able to play guitar on tv? Two bagpipers on tv who have the mouth moves correct but couldn’t make their fingers mime Amazing Grace in time.
Sure, sure, blame the picture editor!


I wish that editors would re-synch archive footage used in music documentaries, which is usually out by about two frames for some reason.
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and quite a number of old movies too. Hard to watch that stuff.
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While it's sadly all too common to see out-of-sync material from the source, it's worth bearing in mind that sync errors can also be caused by the viewing equipment, particularly if you take audio from a TV to reproduce via a hifi system or external 'sound bar' as so many do.

Some systems -- either the sound system or the TV itself -- will include facilities to delay the audio to match the inherent delays of the visual display, but not all do, and even if they do, not everyone is aware of the feature or how to adjust it!
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Does anybody know of an app/plug-in that can do the same with Youtube?
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I find some Amazon programs drift out of sync after a while. I have to exit the program and resume watching to get it in sync again. Never found that with Netflix.
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Wonks wrote:I find some Amazon programs drift out of sync after a while. I have to exit the program and resume watching to get it in sync again. Never found that with Netflix.


Until about a year ago I had a TV that I bought in 2008. When watching pretty much any streaming content the audio would drift out of sync with the video and occasionally I'd get weird distortion on it as well. The solution to the distortion was to pause for 30 seconds, but the sync issue never went away.

Got a new TV early last year (a cheap but nice non-smart thing, as I use external devices for the smart part) and both problems went away and haven't re-occured, so maybe it would be worth trying a different TV if yours is getting on a bit?
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It's a Sony and only 4 years old max. And it's only sometimes, and only on Amazon. Maybe it's the app on the TV, though I do try and check for software updates about once a month.
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It's usually the decoding software which loses track of the time stamping between the audio and video streams, and often because of a change to the encoder software intended to 'improve quality'.

So a TV software update will often fix it, but only if software updates are still being generated for that specific TV. Panasonic seem very poor at supporting their TVs once they're more than about 5 years old... :(
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Chapter whatever: of progress and impediments...

Working on the wide diffusers for the back wall.
Step 1, cut, plane and sand wood:
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Step 2, cut to random size, tidy with rasp, and layout to confirm backplate size:
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Step 3, realise that you've forgotten to factor that you're creating two plates and have therefore only done half the requisite cutting, planing, sanding and rasping.

Step 4, buy more wood and repeat step one:
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18 meters in total, if you're interested...

Step 5, cut to size and split for two boards:
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Step 6, decide things are going too well so trap finger in car door and half-sever the tip.
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Step 7, glue blocks to back boards:
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Step 8, add a bit of trimming and mounting plate:
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Step 9, read wall diffusion complete:
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And that actually completes the main build and treatment.
I just need to build a cabinet for the computer now and then we're back up and running for recording and mixing. After that there are a few cosmetic jobs like some nice lights and the nameplate for the front, but a) they don't affect the use of the room and b) I can clear all the tools out of the room and do that work in the garage.
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