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Arpangel wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:37 am You’re braver than I am, although, I’ve been looking at a Moog Prodigy that popped up recently, can’t make up my mind whether to go for it or not, they have very nostalgic memory’s for me, it would be good to have that back again.

Having an electronics engineer on hand helps!

A Prodigy would be lovely. I'd also like a Micromoog.
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John Stafford wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:01 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:37 am You’re braver than I am, although, I’ve been looking at a Moog Prodigy that popped up recently, can’t make up my mind whether to go for it or not, they have very nostalgic memory’s for me, it would be good to have that back again.

Having an electronics engineer on hand helps!

A Prodigy would be lovely. I'd also like a Micromoog.

I think I’m going to get the Prodigy, I’m a bit scared, they say it’s been recently "serviced" :think: it’s in great cosmetic shape, but that doesn’t mean anything.
It’s the "right price" so not a bargain, it has a great sound, and it was one of my first synths, I bought mine new in 1978 from Rod Argents in Denmark Street, great memories.
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"Vladimir Kuzmin and Behringer announced today that they have entered into a collaboration to develop a new Polivoks synthesizer."

Not my bag, but someone may be interested.
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The Elf wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:14 pm "Vladimir Kuzmin and Behringer announced today that they have entered into a collaboration to develop a new Polivoks synthesizer."

Not my bag, but someone may be interested.

And seems to have been initiated from Vladimir contacting Behringer to see if they want to make one rather than Behringer having the idea and contacting him. So hopefully this is one clone people can't complain about!
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I am unfamiliar with the "Polivoks sound" so I checked out the Jexsus video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IMpElp0a_Q.

and Retrosound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_VdZ8il_Hs

:shocked:

Interesting quote from a short 2016 interview -

Would you ever consider bringing the Polivoks back yourself, though?

Russian proverb says: it’s not possible to step in the same water twice.


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As a non-synth person, I find that quite intriguing. But it also doesn't really sound any different to any number of other synths.
N i g e l wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:15 pm Interesting quote from a short 2016 interview -

Would you ever consider bringing the Polivoks back yourself, though?

Russian proverb says: it’s not possible to step in the same water twice.

Presumably the full quote finishes with "unless one is paid a sizeable amount of cash"?
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SH-5 (MS-5) anyone?, in a Poly D/Mono/Poly style case,

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Behringer FB wrote:What would you think if we made an MS-5 synth?

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Behringer's parts-bin engineering gave me a thought, did the Yamaha CS series all use the same basic VCO and VCF design, from the monosynths to the big polysynths?

Because my first monosynth was a CS-15 and I have very fond memories of it, and no other synth of the time sounded as smooth or as stable. I always assumed it was because Yamaha designed their own components internally rather than using off-the-shelf components like pretty much everyone else. I've never played a Yamaha poly though, and never heard a sound comparison between the monos and the polys.
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DGL. wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:19 am SH-5 (MS-5) anyone?, in a Poly D/Mono/Poly style case,

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Behringer FB wrote:What would you think if we made an MS-5 synth?


I’ll buy one if you keep the name "Synthesizer"
That has to be so cool.
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t-sun wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:23 pm Behringer's parts-bin engineering gave me a thought, did the Yamaha CS series all use the same basic VCO and VCF design, from the monosynths to the big polysynths?

Because my first monosynth was a CS-15 and I have very fond memories of it, and no other synth of the time sounded as smooth or as stable. I always assumed it was because Yamaha designed their own components internally rather than using off-the-shelf components like pretty much everyone else. I've never played a Yamaha poly though, and never heard a sound comparison between the monos and the polys.

Yamaha designed and manufactured their own chips – VCO, VCF, VCA, keyboard scanners, all the usual suspects – and used these in all their CS synths, mono and poly. There are differences in what's around them, so the circuits do vary from model to model, but the core operations are mostly carried out by the same pieces.

I've had a few CS synths – 01, 5, 10, 15, 40m – but never had the opportunity to play one alongside a big poly to find out how they compare either.
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A couple of potential new things from Behringer,

Potentially a Bode Frequency Shifter for the Moog system, quite complicated so would be ~$199, only a render so far.

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And secondly a Pearl Syncussion clone in a Wasp/Model D/Neutron/CAT style case, looks like a real prototype exists.

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DGL. wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:40 pm A couple of potential new things from Behringer,

Potentially a Bode Frequency Shifter for the Moog system, quite complicated so would be ~$199, only a render so far.

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And secondly a Pearl Syncussion clone in a Wasp/Model D/Neutron/CAT style case, looks like a real prototype exists.

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Im beginning to wonder about you DGL, have you put spyware on my tablet? :D
Just yesterday, I was looking at available Bode shifters, very few, and very expensive, then I thought "I wonder if Behringer has one in their Moog range?" And then I find this.
Yet again, sold.

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Arpangel wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:52 am

Im beginning to wonder about you DGL, have you put spyware on my tablet? :D
Just yesterday, I was looking at available Bode shifters, very few, and very expensive, then I thought "I wonder if Behringer has one in their Moog range?" And then I find this.
Yet again, sold.

:beamup:

Well if you don't want me to tell everyone about those naughty websites you have been visiting...

Who would have thought, though, when Behringer went into synths they would be probably the largest manufacturer of them within a few years. I count 22 products if you count the 2500/100/Moog modules as one range, including all the colour options and different modules Thomann has 105 Behringer synth products, looking also in the Thomann synth category for what is sold by the big three, Behringer has more synth products than all of them combined!
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DGL. wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:12 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:52 am

Im beginning to wonder about you DGL, have you put spyware on my tablet? :D
Just yesterday, I was looking at available Bode shifters, very few, and very expensive, then I thought "I wonder if Behringer has one in their Moog range?" And then I find this.
Yet again, sold.

:beamup:

Well if you don't want me to tell everyone about those naughty websites you have been visiting...

Who would have thought, though, when Behringer went into synths they would be probably the largest manufacturer of them within a few years. I count 22 products if you count the 2500/100/Moog modules as one range, including all the colour options and different modules Thomann has 105 Behringer synth products, looking also in the Thomann synth category for what is sold by the big three, Behringer has more synth products than all of them combined!

Naughty websites? like Modular Grid.

:):geek:
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Arpangel wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:48 pm
DGL. wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:12 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:52 am

Im beginning to wonder about you DGL, have you put spyware on my tablet? :D
Just yesterday, I was looking at available Bode shifters, very few, and very expensive, then I thought "I wonder if Behringer has one in their Moog range?" And then I find this.
Yet again, sold.

:beamup:

Well if you don't want me to tell everyone about those naughty websites you have been visiting...

Who would have thought, though, when Behringer went into synths they would be probably the largest manufacturer of them within a few years. I count 22 products if you count the 2500/100/Moog modules as one range, including all the colour options and different modules Thomann has 105 Behringer synth products, looking also in the Thomann synth category for what is sold by the big three, Behringer has more synth products than all of them combined!

Naughty websites? like Modular Grid.

:):geek:

Well if you have another half most probably :lol:

"YOU SPENT HOW MUCH!?!? ON THAT PIDDLY THING! AND YOU WANT MORE?!?!?"
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DGL. wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:41 pm
Well if you have another half most probably :lol:

"YOU SPENT HOW MUCH!?!? ON THAT PIDDLY THING! AND YOU WANT MORE?!?!?"

I have more Behringer modules being delivered today, and tomorrow, it’s got to the point now where I need yet another case, which will take me up to 21U of 84HP.
My partner doesn’t really mind, we joke about it, but maybe I tell the odd white lie about what’s inside boxes.
But musically, it’s great, it’s all working out well, it’s a much more successful incarnation than my previous excursion into modular, I’m more experienced now, regarding the realities of what certain modules can do for me, and the more the merrier, for the music I’m making now, it’s like having my own Amazonian rain forest in a box, or a humongous refinery or steel plant, regarding sounds that I make with it, beauty and the beast, a great contrast.
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I've noticed that none of the american stores have the RD-9 in stock and don't seem to have any idea when it will come in (only estimate I've seen is actually for next January, from the UK based gear4music). Seems like the claim that it was shipping was premature, anyone have any insight as to the cause of the delay? I'm wondering if it's more a lack of shipping availability or if it's materials/chip production related.

I've been hemming and hawing over a Modal Skulpt SE but didn't want to spend the money if the RD-9 finally comes into stock and then sells out immediately. Sweetwater will set one aside for me but they say they have no idea what the cause of the delay is and can't give any timeframe.
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t-sun wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:50 am I've been hemming and hawing over a Modal Skulpt SE but didn't want to spend the money if the RD-9 finally comes into stock ...

I'd ask yourself what it is you actually want do to with whatever you end up buying.

If only a 909 will do then definitely fill your boots, pre-order one and wait for it. I've done exactly that for a number of synths I know I wanted over the years.

If there are other solutions that could meet the requirement and are more immediately obtainable then I'd go with them in a heartbeat.

When all is said and done if you have a need (and the budget) then fill it with the first acceptable offering you encounter that can meet the requirements.

The driver is the musical need, not a particular vendor.

Gearlust, on the other hand, is a particularly personal perspective and a quest with which no external counsel can assist with in any meaningful sense :)
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It looks as if Auratone has successfully held off an attempt by Behringer to take ownership of their trademark in the US:

https://cdm.link/2021/07/family-owned-a ... nger-case/
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Eddy Deegan wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:15 pm It looks as if Auratone has successfully held off an attempt by Behringer to take ownership of their trademark in the US:

https://cdm.link/2021/07/family-owned-a ... nger-case/

Sigh. Everything I learn about Behringer just fills me with more disdain for them.
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Eddy Deegan wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:15 pm It looks as if Auratone has successfully held off an attempt by Behringer to take ownership of their trademark in the US:

That's a pleasing turn-up. :clap:
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Eddy Deegan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:07 am
t-sun wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:50 am I've been hemming and hawing over a Modal Skulpt SE but didn't want to spend the money if the RD-9 finally comes into stock ...

Gearlust, on the other hand, is a particularly personal perspective and a quest with which no external counsel can assist with in any meaningful sense :)

That would rather be the point. :D

Sweetwater is the exclusive vendor in the US and they aren't even accepting pre-orders at this point (keeping customers on an unofficial list, dropping an email now and then with updates even if there's no news). I'd just noticed that the gear4music UK site seemed to have reviews from buyers, although they may have been beta testers, and wondered if there was any more info out there.

I went ahead and ordered the Skulpt SE for the time being, been meaning to pick one up. Great sounding little thing.
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Behringer FB wrote:the space journey has started

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As Behringer's official rep here at SOS can you clarify that? :D
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Roland have had more than long enough to satisfy the demand for this one, yet have chosen to not only ignore it, but even belittle the idea as 'chasing ghosts'.

This is one I can definitely get behind.
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BJG145 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:52 pm As Behringer's official rep here at SOS can you clarify that? :D

Jupiter ;)
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And I though it would be wrong of me not to post this but Behringer seem to be on a roll... Looks like Dave's got some competition ;)

Behringer FB wrote:Prototype completed. Firmware development in full force.

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It appears to be a 16 voice Prophet 5 clone, guess it will be a fair bit cheaper than even the 5 voice DSI/Sequential Rev 4., wonder which revision it will clone or if it will be switchable?
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DGL. wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:47 pm And I though it would be wrong of me not to post this but Behringer seem to be on a roll... Looks like Dave's got some competition ;)

Behringer FB wrote:Prototype completed. Firmware development in full force.

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It appears to be a 16 voice Prophet 5 clone, guess it will be a fair bit cheaper than even the 5 voice DSI/Sequential Rev 4., wonder which revision it will clone or if it will be switchable?

OK, I’m going to be severely challenged in the smuggling department soon, a VCS3, now this Prophet, my partner keeps wondering why my friend is loaning me so many keyboards.
My modular, thanks to Behringer, is growing like our garden in summer, it’s getting difficult passing modules off as "been in storage" where? she keeps saying.

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But it's not an original, and you have told us many times that you won't buy anything but the original of so much gear - why is this one different? (Let's save you some money) ;)
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