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Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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We are having trouble using JO in MOTU Digital Performer 9.52. OS 10.13.6, with a MOTU 828 Mk3 Firewire.

In Stand Alone mode, JO latency reads as 256, but within DP it reads as 2048 with an over the limit warning, even though the 828 is set to 256. 2048 is twice the upper limit of the 828.

We have tried trashing the DP preference files as suggested by MOTU tech support, but makes no difference.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Does it work and at an acceptable latency for you? If so, then ignore the warning.
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Does it work ok as a standalone device or are you getting bad latency then as well?
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Midi Guitar V2.21? Using the VST rather than the AU version? Sample rate 44.1kHz?
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Thanks for your replies.

We know it works stand alone, but the warning limit prevents it from operating at all in the DAW.

We don't really need live capability, just a reliable means of converting audio to midi - can you recommend anything else?
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If you've used the VST version (as Jam Origin recommend), is it worth just trying the AU version (if you haven't already)?
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Wonks wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:11 pm If you've used the VST version (as Jam Origin recommend), is it worth just trying the AU version (if you haven't already)?

We have now tried both the AU and the VST versions, and the problem persists.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Gone To Lunch wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:58 pmWe don't really need live capability, just a reliable means of converting audio to midi - can you recommend anything else?

I was blown away by this software last time I looked at it. I should persevere. Maybe try another DAW.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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BJG145 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:42 pm
Gone To Lunch wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:58 pmWe don't really need live capability, just a reliable means of converting audio to midi - can you recommend anything else?

I was blown away by this software last time I looked at it. I should persevere. Maybe try another DAW.

Indeed. But we don't have another DAW.

Their site includes detailed instructions for DP, so they clearly expect it to work therein.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Try GarargeBand

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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Cakewalk is free on PC and Reaper is a free trial for PC and Mac.
If it works on one of those then you know it's not a problem with the JO download or with the rest of your set-up / routing.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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blinddrew wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:18 pm Cakewalk is free on PC and Reaper is a free trial for PC and Mac.
If it works on one of those then you know it's not a problem with the JO download or with the rest of your set-up / routing.

It worked properly in Reaper.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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I have'nt t been using it much lately as I felt the latency was quite high , I put it down to whatever soft synth I was controlling in Logic and that seemed to change depending on the preset I selected in Alchemy or Kontakt Free.

I wonder if the result is the same using the included sounds .

My last impression was latency hsd been better on my older versions of Logic and OS , but may well have beern the type of sounds I was playing back then
, mostly slow attack pads anyhow.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Gone To Lunch wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:27 am
blinddrew wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:18 pm Cakewalk is free on PC and Reaper is a free trial for PC and Mac.
If it works on one of those then you know it's not a problem with the JO download or with the rest of your set-up / routing.

It worked properly in Reaper.

Hmm. Unfortunately that does rather stick the problem into the DP box, not something I know anything about I'm afraid. :(
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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wdsteele wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:56 am I have'nt t been using it much lately as I felt the latency was quite high , I put it down to whatever soft synth I was controlling in Logic and that seemed to change depending on the preset I selected in Alchemy or Kontakt Free.

I wonder if the result is the same using the included sounds .

My last impression was latency hsd been better on my older versions of Logic and OS , but may well have beern the type of sounds I was playing back then
, mostly slow attack pads anyhow.

I generally use the included sounds when tracking and then swap them out for my preferred options later.
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Eitherway it's still a great plugin although I do tend to just "jam" out atmospheric stuff when using it.

I liked the organs on a Boss SY1 when I had one , havent found the same feel so far with the plugin .
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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Problem sorted.

It was just a question of setting the plug-in to real time use in the DP mini menu.

Shame they didn't explain that on their support page...
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Re: Jam Origin guitar/MIDI conversion in MOTU Digital Performer

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ah, but at least you've got there and now we have a solution if anyone else runs into the same problem. :thumbup:
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