The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Arrangement, instrumentation, lyric writing, music theory, inspiration… it’s all here.

Moderator: Moderators

The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by Arpangel »

These things are part of all types of music, from pop etc, to contemporary classical and avant-garde, and everything in between.
My theory is that it’s a reflection of of how people feel globally, either trying to introduce a quality that invokes a nostalgic memory, of better times, or, they are used to reflect what’s going on in the world right now, a slow decay, literally, disintegration. I know that’s exactly what I’m using it for in my music, the last thing I want is high fidelity.
"Technical quality" has become unimportant, it’s almost irrelevant to most people, especially younger listeners, all sound, of whatever quality, has become acceptable, it just depends on the context.
You’ve only got to look at some of the instruments that are available now, advertising lo-fi, low bit rate, bit reduction, dirty, anything but pristine and clean.
Where all this is going I don’t know, I like it, it won’t be thought about, like I am now, it’ll just be part of the scene, it already has, it’s interesting though, how things sometimes do a complete u-turn, from wanting ultimate fidelity, and to reproduce acoustic instruments as realistically as possible, to the point we are at now.
User avatar
Arpangel
Jedi Poster
Posts: 11086 Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:00 am
That’s another thing

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by Martin Walker »

Look up 'hauntology' and all will (probably) be explained.

EDIT: This video link will save you the trouble of looking up the term, and is a useful primer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/ideas/videos/what ... s/p0729knv

Oh, and the duo Boards Of Canada are probably the best introduction to the whole genre in the musical sense (I own most of their output on CD): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boards_of_Canada

Martin
User avatar
Martin Walker
Moderator
Posts: 19119 Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:44 am Location: Cornwall, UK

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by blinddrew »

I think these things come into and go out of fashion in cycles as new generations discover previous work and are subsequently inspired. Plus there's always the background level of people who have always embraced this kind of sound.
User avatar
blinddrew
Jedi Poster
Posts: 18719 Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am Location: York
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by N i g e l »

Boards of Canada :thumbup:

Allways reminds me of wobbly b&w films at school showing the Rhine all frothy with dead fish, shopping trollys and toxic heavy metals.

Martin Walker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:08 pm This video link will save you the trouble of looking up the term, and is a useful primer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/ideas/videos/what ... s/p0729knv


That included a reference to "look around you" so Im guessing Synthesizer Patel is OK to watch ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2myFLUDB74

[note: he has done some mods to his Ebay bargain synth ]

----------------

I think its only Hi quality sound that lets us apppreciate "distressing" to its full potential. Maybe its a compare and contrast thing - Lo-fi along side Hi-fi.....
User avatar
N i g e l
Frequent Poster (Level2)
Posts: 2401 Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:40 pm Location: British Isles

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by resistorman »

Distortion has always been a part of music since amplifiers were introduced. I think there's an argument to be made that it's much, much older once resonating bits were added to drums in Africa and more recently to snare drums.
User avatar
resistorman
Frequent Poster
Posts: 1895 Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:00 am Location: Asheville NC
"The Best" piece of gear is subjective.

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by blinddrew »

resistorman wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:39 am Distortion has always been a part of music since amplifiers were introduced. I think there's an argument to be made that it's much, much older once resonating bits were added to drums in Africa and more recently to snare drums.

Not to mention the over-blowing technique with brass instruments.
User avatar
blinddrew
Jedi Poster
Posts: 18719 Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am Location: York
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by awjoe »

What's the overblowing of brass about?
User avatar
awjoe
Frequent Poster (Level2)
Posts: 3809 Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:00 am
All I can hope for is that my wiring holds up.

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by Favedave »

Brilliant post! As I read it, I thought that most of your post would be used as a newspaper article about rock music in 1971 and be as relevant. Or, if changing some of the adjectives, be about the premiere of Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring in 1913.

I think it's very healthy indeed to "muss up the hair" of the previous generation's sound. Or destroy it altogether. Although what you describe has never really been possible before to this extent since we have SO MUCH recorded music from the last 120 years. And we have the easily available electronic means to alter it in infinite ways.

Can't wait to see where we go!
Favedave
New here
Posts: 7 Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:42 am
"ARS LONGA, VITA BREVIS" Producer, Tabitha Rasa Project @ tabitharasa.com
- iMac Pro w/ 64 gigs RAM, Apollo Twin, UAD Satellite x 2, w/ 95 plugins, Logic Pro, Luna, & Adobe CC.
- JBL 4328 Monitors; Omnisphere; Kontakt; Speakerphone; Melodyne; Altiverb, etc.

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by Arpangel »

Favedave wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:02 am Brilliant post! As I read it, I thought that most of your post would be used as a newspaper article about rock music in 1971 and be as relevant. Or, if changing some of the adjectives, be about the premiere of Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring in 1913.

I think it's very healthy indeed to "muss up the hair" of the previous generation's sound. Or destroy it altogether. Although what you describe has never really been possible before to this extent since we have SO MUCH recorded music from the last 120 years. And we have the easily available electronic means to alter it in infinite ways.

Can't wait to see where we go!

Interesting comments.

Martin, BOC, when I first bought Tomorrow’s Harvest, it changed the very atmosphere, the chemical make-up of the air in my room, it was transcendental, you were immediately in another place, it was so evocative, of what? I’ll tell you, of everything, it was like a film running from the past showing me my whole life, Stars Of The Lid also have this affect on me, I say when people ask me if I’ve taken Acid, "no, but I’ve seen Stars Of The Lid"
User avatar
Arpangel
Jedi Poster
Posts: 11086 Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:00 am
That’s another thing

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by blinddrew »

awjoe wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:22 am What's the overblowing of brass about?

Paragraph 3 ;)
User avatar
blinddrew
Jedi Poster
Posts: 18719 Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am Location: York
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by Martin Walker »

Arpangel wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:28 am Stars Of The Lid also have this affect on me, I say when people ask me if I’ve taken Acid, "no, but I’ve seen Stars Of The Lid"

Hi Tony,

Thanks for introducing me to Stars Of The Lid!

With claimed influences including Arvo Pärt, Henryk Górecki, and Brian Eno, it's hardly surprising that I love what I'm hearing 8-)

Looks like I'll be purchasing 'and their Refinement of the Decline' in short order.

Martin
User avatar
Martin Walker
Moderator
Posts: 19119 Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:44 am Location: Cornwall, UK

Re: The popularity of distressing, disintegrating sound.

Post by blinddrew »

blinddrew wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:37 am
awjoe wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:22 am What's the overblowing of brass about?

Paragraph 3 ;)

And this time with the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overblowi ... 0a%20slide.
:headbang::headbang::headbang:
User avatar
blinddrew
Jedi Poster
Posts: 18719 Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am Location: York
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...
Post Reply