Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Sam Spoons wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:41 pm An older iPhone with a headphone socket (iPhone 6S or earlier) would also work well, still capable of running the latest iOS and apps and pretty user friendly.

You’ll need something like an iPhone 8 or newer to run the latest iOS 16 (v16.3 at time of writing), though a 6 or 7 will run iOS 15.

But a phone of that age will probably need a replacement battery, and the controls get increasingly dodgy. Before it died completely, my 6S battery lasted only a few hours at most if being used, and then the side on/off/lock button stopped working.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Wonks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:52 pm
Sam Spoons wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:41 pm An older iPhone with a headphone socket (iPhone 6S or earlier) would also work well, still capable of running the latest iOS and apps and pretty user friendly.

You’ll need something like an iPhone 8 or newer to run the latest iOS 16 (v16.3 at time of writing), though a 6 or 7 will run iOS 15.

But a phone of that age will probably need a replacement battery, and the controls get increasingly dodgy. Before it died completely, my 6S battery lasted only a few hours at most if being used, and then the side on/off/lock button stopped working.


Wonks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:52 pm
Sam Spoons wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:41 pm An older iPhone with a headphone socket (iPhone 6S or earlier) would also work well, still capable of running the latest iOS and apps and pretty user friendly.

You’ll need something like an iPhone 8 or newer to run the latest iOS 16 (v16.3 at time of writing), though a 6 or 7 will run iOS 15.

But a phone of that age will probably need a replacement battery, and the controls get increasingly dodgy. Before it died completely, my 6S battery lasted only a few hours at most if being used, and then the side on/off/lock button stopped working.

I've had that experience too. It is difficult to know exactly what the OP wants to spend. There are lots of options, depending on budget. In fact old CD players are so cheap that 2 of them could be purchased, with one as a spare, or even buy an old laptop, they have CD/DVD players.

What I do know is that I got a relatively decent phone to play back files but for some reason it started playing silly bug*ers (no that's not a tune, AFAIK) and as far as I could tell it was cheaper to buy a replacement phone than get the existing one replaced. And with today's tendency to use parts, even the battery, that can't be replaced so easily, well suffice it to say, that despite one poster's advice that anything with mechanical moving parts should be avoided, well The Flying Scotsman is still going, but there again the parts have been changed/replaced - you can't do that with an iPhone and ironically enough, my old CD player has outlived 2 smartphones!
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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The LG V20 phone is one of my favourites. It has a removable battery, and will also connect to my external DAC for lossless playback of files and Tidal. It sounds noticeably better than my iPhone 6 using the headphone socket. They cost from about £50 used. Still available new, as well.

You could also use a tablet if you wanted a bigger control surface, of course, although I see that phones are getting huge again! That latest iPhone is ridiculously chunky IMO. :)
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Have not followed the whole thread but if CD players are now rare/expensive look for a DVD player. They will play CDs but you can also store a shedload of MP3 on one.

No idea how bump-proof they are but if it were I, I would in any case use a Minidisc recorder. Mainly because I have two and lots of discs.

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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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ef37a wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:37 pm Have not followed the whole thread but if CD players are now rare/expensive look for a DVD player. They will play CDs but you can also store a shedload of MP3 on one.

Just be careful to check the outputs as some only have an HDMI out.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Wonks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:57 pm You’d use the 3.5mm headphone output to connect to the mixer.

Either a 3.5mm TRS to 2xRCA cable if you use the RCA inputs on the mixer, or 3.5mm TRS to two 1/4” TS jack plug cable if you want to use a stereo channel.

I’ve used both in the past, though I normally prefer the stereo channel approach as you normally have tone controls available and with the RCA inputs you tend not to.

Being a headphone output, it is possible to overload and distort the mixer inputs at full output volume on some players, so play with the output level (and any input gain control you may have) for best results.

Hi thank you for your reply, where do I plug the 1/4” TS Jack plug cable in on the mixer?
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Into the stereo inputs on either of the last two channels, or into two separate mono channels (e.g. 5&6). But personally I'd use one of the stereo channels as thats what they're there for. :)
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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blinddrew wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:16 pm
ef37a wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:37 pm Have not followed the whole thread but if CD players are now rare/expensive look for a DVD player. They will play CDs but you can also store a shedload of MP3 on one.

Just be careful to check the outputs as some only have an HDMI out.

Yes, the later ones do but an HDMI to RCA analogue out is cheap as chips. If a SCART socket, cables to RCA are readily available.

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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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We have three iPhone 6S here and an iPhone 5S, two of the 6S' have had new batteries (the ones Mrs S and I still use as our mobile phones, I did mine myself for £20) but all four still function just fine, all buttons, touch screen and headphone socket. The 5S is used nearly every day as a music player for my wife's dancing school. Anything newer than a 6S will need a USBC to analogue audio cable which bumps up the cost but the larger display makes it much nicer to use than a dedicated .mp3 player. You takes yer money and makes yer choice but most people I know have at least one old mobile phone in a draw somewhere so cost of trying it out + zero.

Which ever way you look at it a CD/DVD player* is going to skip and drop out if knocked, and it will get knocked :blush:

* Unless it's designed for the specific job, professional rack mount would be ok as would a portable, probably, but portables are rarely robustly built and all will be old, I would not trust on for a professional application.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Mike Stranks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:20 am
punkyfish wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:39 pm Struggling to find a CD player

(A word of caution on the mini-systems. Some of the ones I've seen that appear to be 'separates' use proprietary 'all in one' - mains and signal- interconnects between the units, so not easily used in standalone mode.)

Slightly off topic but came across something on the vintage radio forums, turns out that Grundig did a separates system that is even more proprietary than possibly anything else, the CD player, for example, only has a mains in and out, the tuner adds an aerial socket and the amp has just one digital and one analogue input that are not used by the related components.
A look at the front of the units and the model numbers AS-IR for the amp and CD-IR for the CD player might give you a clue as to how the unit's were interconnected, and yes it was a mad method!
https://a.allegroimg.com/s1024/0c4b38/7 ... f08ec33af2
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As for buying a CD player I got the correct one for my Technics integrated system for around a tenner a couple of years ago.

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Thank you very much everyone for your detailed explanations and suggestions which will enable me to choose the right equipment. Very much appreciated!
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punkyfish wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:17 pm If I rip to a Wav file, what would I use to playback and what lead would I need? I have an iPod but to be honest I have never had success with it nor my iPhone. I have never been able to either get stuff off my phone or put stuff on it.

Not trying to be nasty, but if you haven't managed to get over this hurdle, you probably aren't the right person to be managing this project.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Hi I'd just said I will jump in here and tell you what I use and advise you to play your backing tracks, I would not use a cd player definitely not I did at one time use cds even for the first dance at weddings and this is a time when in that 2 to 3 mins you certainly do not want the cd to start skipping or stop, this did happen to a few bands I know, so I then started to use ipod and since have moved from tablet to ipad using stage traxx 3 definately worth a look at, but a cheap way out is a decent cd player with anti skip with RCA ( red and white ) on the back to RCA on your desk or even back to a channel on your desk, hope this is of help, also I know a band right now that are using mini discs but again these can run into issues which I did have experience of on a night, my singer was singing away floor full and it was ACDC
shook me all night long and right in the high point of the track the mini disc went all wrong, but honestly I'd say anything is possible to go wrong no matter which way you decide to go, we just take the chance and mind or equipment best we can and cds need extreme care not to let get a scratch or, a hairline on that can cause issues ,
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