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Eddy Deegan wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 2:15 am Welcome to the forum ARealGuitarist :wave:

Thank you!

I stumbled across this forum on accident via Google search on the Minim pedal. I am building a pedalboard with different delay and reverb pedals, an ambient effect based pedal board. I saw this post and thought it needed a bit of an update. I have more to say, I wanna shout out to another specific delay pedal I have on the board abd maybe a couple others but I'll do it in another comment :)
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Re: Delay pedal shoot-out?

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ARealGuitarist wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 3:27 am
Eddy Deegan wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 2:15 am Welcome to the forum ARealGuitarist :wave:

Thank you!

I stumbled across this forum on accident via Google search on the Minim pedal. I am building a pedalboard with different delay and reverb pedals, an ambient effect based pedal board. I saw this post and thought it needed a bit of an update. I have more to say, I wanna shout out to another specific delay pedal I have on the board abd maybe a couple others but I'll do it in another comment :)

The Minim has one "major" weakness, it’s not stereo.
It’s the nature of the effects, they really would benefit from being in stereo.
I tried intensely to get into mine, you know, sometimes things can grow, or you discover a nice sweet spot, but not so in this case, it got sold.
I also sold my EHX 16 Sec Reissue, it’s not a 16 second delay like the original, it’s only one second, and sixteen only in the looper, which is so convoluted it was head damaging.
The Memory Toy is the best off their delays IMO, it’s lovely, but I’m up to here with dirty delays, I much prefer clean digital delays now, for my music.
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I’ve been through many delay units and have settled on the Strymon Dig Delay (which is stereo). I love the sound and tweakability. Wonderful stereo soundscapes, clean, with modulation if you want it, and good manipulation between principal and secondary delays:

https://www.strymon.net/product/dig/

But I recently acquired an Earthquaker Dispatch Master. A gorgeous mix of reverb and delay - instant soup - but sadly mono only:

https://www.earthquakerdevices.com/dispatch-master

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When it comes to delay pedals, everyone should have some flavor of Space Echo simulation, in my opinion.
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Ben Asaro wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 12:59 pm When it comes to delay pedals, everyone should have some flavor of Space Echo simulation, in my opinion.

I knew a guy that used to gig a tape Space Echo and a Juno 6, that’s all he had, and what he did solo with these two things was amazing.

Bob Bickerton wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:14 am I’ve been through many delay units and have settled on the Strymon Dig Delay (which is stereo). I love the sound and tweakability. Wonderful stereo soundscapes, clean, with modulation if you want it, and good manipulation between principal and secondary delays:

https://www.strymon.net/product/dig/

But I recently acquired an Earthquaker Dispatch Master. A gorgeous mix of reverb and delay - instant soup - but sadly mono only:

https://www.earthquakerdevices.com/dispatch-master

Bob

Bob, what’s the maximum delay time on the Dig?
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Arpangel wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 8:09 am
ARealGuitarist wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 3:27 am
Eddy Deegan wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 2:15 am Welcome to the forum ARealGuitarist :wave:

Thank you!

I stumbled across this forum on accident via Google search on the Minim pedal. I am building a pedalboard with different delay and reverb pedals, an ambient effect based pedal board. I saw this post and thought it needed a bit of an update. I have more to say, I wanna shout out to another specific delay pedal I have on the board abd maybe a couple others but I'll do it in another comment :)

The Minim has one "major" weakness, it’s not stereo.
It’s the nature of the effects, they really would benefit from being in stereo.
I tried intensely to get into mine, you know, sometimes things can grow, or you discover a nice sweet spot, but not so in this case, it got sold.
I also sold my EHX 16 Sec Reissue, it’s not a 16 second delay like the original, it’s only one second, and sixteen only in the looper, which is so convoluted it was head damaging.
The Memory Toy is the best off their delays IMO, it’s lovely, but I’m up to here with dirty delays, I much prefer clean digital delays now, for my music.

That's because it's a true analog circuit. There is no true analog circuit with stereo because it requires the digital output of a signal split, processing to two sides. For me, lack of stereo doesn't bother me, I made sure all my pedals are mono, I'll post a pic sometime. Maybe my next board will be stereo based for further experimentation.

However, if stereo is something you need. I'd check out the Earthquakers Devices' Avalanche Run and Walrus Audio's D1 Mako Delay. I'd say they are the best in that field. Walrus has been knocking it out of the park with their digital effects! I own two reverb pedals by them, the Fathom and the Slotva :D If you are looking for clean and versatile, I don't think the Walrus sits on top of the chain. There's good reason why it's more expensive than the new Digitech DL4 MKii, for example.

Besides the Minim, I haven't even talked about my other 2 all time favorite delay pedals, one being digital and the other is analog.
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I recently acquired a Line 6 DL4 MK2. Best delay I've ever used.
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ARealGuitarist wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 3:41 pm
Arpangel wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 8:09 am
ARealGuitarist wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 3:27 am
Eddy Deegan wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 2:15 am Welcome to the forum ARealGuitarist :wave:

Thank you!

I stumbled across this forum on accident via Google search on the Minim pedal. I am building a pedalboard with different delay and reverb pedals, an ambient effect based pedal board. I saw this post and thought it needed a bit of an update. I have more to say, I wanna shout out to another specific delay pedal I have on the board abd maybe a couple others but I'll do it in another comment :)

The Minim has one "major" weakness, it’s not stereo.
It’s the nature of the effects, they really would benefit from being in stereo.
I tried intensely to get into mine, you know, sometimes things can grow, or you discover a nice sweet spot, but not so in this case, it got sold.
I also sold my EHX 16 Sec Reissue, it’s not a 16 second delay like the original, it’s only one second, and sixteen only in the looper, which is so convoluted it was head damaging.
The Memory Toy is the best off their delays IMO, it’s lovely, but I’m up to here with dirty delays, I much prefer clean digital delays now, for my music.

That's because it's a true analog circuit. There is no true analog circuit with stereo because it requires the digital output of a signal split, processing to two sides. For me, lack of stereo doesn't bother me, I made sure all my pedals are mono, I'll post a pic sometime. Maybe my next board will be stereo based for further experimentation.

However, if stereo is something you need. I'd check out the Earthquakers Devices' Avalanche Run and Walrus Audio's D1 Mako Delay. I'd say they are the best in that field. Walrus has been knocking it out of the park with their digital effects! I own two reverb pedals by them, the Fathom and the Slotva :D If you are looking for clean and versatile, I don't think the Walrus sits on top of the chain. There's good reason why it's more expensive than the new Digitech DL4 MKii, for example.

Besides the Minim, I haven't even talked about my other 2 all time favorite delay pedals, one being digital and the other is analog.

The Minim just didn’t do it for me, I could never find a sweet spot, you know? you hear a bit of a teaser from a pedal, and you then home in on it to get what you’re after, but I never reached that point.
The only pedals that really grabbed me from day one, are my Big Sky, complete heaven, and my Shallow Water, out of all the modern stuff.
The SW is only good for acoustic sources, it works best with those.
I’ve been through loads of delays, I’ve always thought Lexicon rack delays to be the best, there’s something about them, that really is lovely.
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Have you tried Hungry Robot Pedal's The Wash? Not sure if we can post links to YouTube videos here but, here is the video that made me fall in love with it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt3xwAqdwjU
The Wash pedal is the only delay signal to degrades your delay into a reverb. Hence, a "wash" instead of a wet signal. It's a very versatile pedal and yet it's very unique. It's more or less what people wanted the Boss DM-2 to evolve into. A dark delay that melts into reverb.

Another recommendation would be KMA Mchines' Cirrus pedal. I would describe this as the Avalanche Run's evil twin, but keep in mind that the Avalanche Run supports stereo and the Cirrus is purely mono. The thing that makes the Cirrus so great is that it has on board octave sweeps, filters, chorus and flanges. These effects are only applied to the trails of the delays or the reverb so your key/guitar tone is unaffected. It's also the cleanest delay I've probably ever heard. It's such a beautiful organic sounding delay, very creative and inspiring sounds!
https://kma-machines.com/m_cirrus.html
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Arpangel wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 3:22 pm
Ben Asaro wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 12:59 pm When it comes to delay pedals, everyone should have some flavor of Space Echo simulation, in my opinion.

I knew a guy that used to gig a tape Space Echo and a Juno 6, that’s all he had, and what he did solo with these two things was amazing.

Bob Bickerton wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:14 am I’ve been through many delay units and have settled on the Strymon Dig Delay (which is stereo). I love the sound and tweakability. Wonderful stereo soundscapes, clean, with modulation if you want it, and good manipulation between principal and secondary delays:

https://www.strymon.net/product/dig/

But I recently acquired an Earthquaker Dispatch Master. A gorgeous mix of reverb and delay - instant soup - but sadly mono only:

https://www.earthquakerdevices.com/dispatch-master

Bob

Bob, what’s the maximum delay time on the Dig?

It’s 1.6sec……..but 3.2s with Half Note Delay 1 Subdivision

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ARealGuitarist wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 4:03 pm Have you tried Hungry Robot Pedal's The Wash? Not sure if we can post links to YouTube videos here but, here is the video that made me fall in love with it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt3xwAqdwjU
The Wash pedal is the only delay signal to degrades your delay into a reverb. Hence, a "wash" instead of a wet signal. It's a very versatile pedal and yet it's very unique. It's more or less what people wanted the Boss DM-2 to evolve into. A dark delay that melts into reverb.

Another recommendation would be KMA Mchines' Cirrus pedal. I would describe this as the Avalanche Run's evil twin, but keep in mind that the Avalanche Run supports stereo and the Cirrus is purely mono. The thing that makes the Cirrus so great is that it has on board octave sweeps, filters, chorus and flanges. These effects are only applied to the trails of the delays or the reverb so your key/guitar tone is unaffected. It's also the cleanest delay I've probably ever heard. It's such a beautiful organic sounding delay, very creative and inspiring sounds!
https://kma-machines.com/m_cirrus.html

I’m OK for that type of thing, what I’m after is a good long, clean delay.
I wish I’d never sold my Bel BD80s, it’s not a pedal, but it was the best delay for what I want to do.

Bob Bickerton wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 8:09 pm
Arpangel wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 3:22 pm
Ben Asaro wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 12:59 pm When it comes to delay pedals, everyone should have some flavor of Space Echo simulation, in my opinion.

I knew a guy that used to gig a tape Space Echo and a Juno 6, that’s all he had, and what he did solo with these two things was amazing.

Bob Bickerton wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:14 am I’ve been through many delay units and have settled on the Strymon Dig Delay (which is stereo). I love the sound and tweakability. Wonderful stereo soundscapes, clean, with modulation if you want it, and good manipulation between principal and secondary delays:

https://www.strymon.net/product/dig/

But I recently acquired an Earthquaker Dispatch Master. A gorgeous mix of reverb and delay - instant soup - but sadly mono only:

https://www.earthquakerdevices.com/dispatch-master

Bob

Bob, what’s the maximum delay time on the Dig?

It’s 1.6sec……..but 3.2s with Half Note Delay 1 Subdivision

Bob

Thanks Bob, but it’s not long enough for what I want to do.
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