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Which is why I have stopped buying things that aren't actually in stock and ready send out or for me to take home.

At the moment if I'm in the market for something it's because I need it NOW. If it's not available now, it doesn't matter how potentially brilliant it is likely to be I'll have to look for an alternative that is available now even if it might not be quite so good.

I'll consider "upgrading" when the item I originally want is finally available to buy but by that time I may have become too used to the item I originally bought to be bother to change it (or I might have discovered things on it that suit me perfectly and have no desire to change anyway).
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The Elf wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:26 pm I suspect Eddy and me are on the same waiting list for one device! ;)

I have a hunch you're right ;-)

Ahh well, at least there are other things to play with weil weiling away the time!
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Post by Red Noise »

Is it just me, or do the bosses of Behringer do a lot of promise-y stuff, about future products ?

I swear I saw a Facebook post about their proposed design of a CR78 clone a few years ago, which never came to pass.

Anyway, Behringer products are low cost and often poor build quality, imho.
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Red Noise wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:54 am Anyway, Behringer products are low cost and often poor build quality, imho.

Often, but not always - and in recent times, not even so often.

Try the X range of mixers (largely based on Midas technolgy), or the VC-340, which is very well built.

I'm no Behringer-phile, but credit where it is due - they make some decent stuff nowadays.
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I remember the CR-78 clone, I also remember wondering why on earth they'd bother. The sound was only slightly different from the 808 and since they're doing a V2 of that with their new chip I assume they realized there was no point in a CR-78 clone.

Behringer has definitely got a problem with announcing new products way too early with huge lead times to production, much less shipping. I've had my preorder for the RD-9 in since March, and at this point I'm not expecting to get it until next year. Sure, there is a massive global shipping crisis right now, but it wouldn't feel like that big of a delay if I hadn't been waiting on it for literally years now already.

As far as the build quality goes, I have the MS-1, TB-3, Wasp, Pro-1 and RD-8 and have zero complaints about any of them, particularly the metal cases on the last three. Having owned an SH-101, the MS-1 is definitely more solid, as you'd hope a modern build would be. Only problem I've had is that Berhinger removed an RD-8 firmware update from their site that is required to apply the later updates, and I haven't been able to find it so I think mine is stuck on 1.37 or something for the time being.
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t-sun wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:35 pm I remember the CR-78 clone, I also remember wondering why on earth they'd bother. The sound was only slightly different from the 808...

The CR-78 sounds nothing like the 808! Listen to any of the sounds - they're very different. And the CR-78's quirky guiro, metal and gorgeous tambourine - not on the 808!

I have a TR-8S and the sounds I miss most from it are the CR-78, so I've added my own samples. I really wish that Roland had seen fit to add the CR-78 as modelled sounds to the TR-8/TR-8S. Yet they chose to give us the tiresome TR-707/727... sigh. :frown::headbang:
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Ah, I forgot about the missing sounds. The basic kit is very similar if a bit softer and smoother on the 78 as I recall. It's been many years since I had a chance to play with a CR series machine and my abiding memory was that it sounded more organ-top-accompaniment-machine-oriented than the more up-front 808, but definitely similar sound generation. Also, extremely oblique programming, particularly in comparison with the X0X style. I'm fine with Behringer cloning old machines, but if it means keeping the negatives like that I'll pass.

And the 707 was just incredibly flat. Not as flat as the 505 but, still. Back fifteen years ago when I was thoroughly broke but wanted a drum machine with that Roland programming method and a trigger output, I had one. I think I sold it and bought a 626 at half the price :lol:
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t-sun wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:54 am I'm fine with Behringer cloning old machines, but if it means keeping the negatives like that I'll pass.

After going to great lengths to get the ARP 2500 modules, I know what you mean.
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Post by N i g e l »

my abiding memory was that it sounded more organ-top-accompaniment-machine-oriented than the more up-front 808

:lol: yeah, when I think CR78 I think Phil Collins or Genesis/duke, where it provides the appropriate sounds for the task in hand.
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Yes - I think Phil chose that sound because it was musically/percussively interesting, but mostly because it presented such an interesting contrast to his explosive physical drumming (as per the so-famous-its-a-cliche intro to 'In the Air' etc)
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BillB wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:26 pm Yes - I think Phil chose that sound because it was musically/percussively interesting, but mostly because it presented such an interesting contrast to his explosive physical drumming (as per the so-famous-its-a-cliche intro to 'In the Air' etc)

I can most definitely relate to that. Having spent most of the 80s trying to make my various drum machines (Boss Dr Rhythm, Roland TR808, Yamaha RX11) sound like real drums, when I finally got something that was reasonably close (Alesis HR16) I joined a band with an actual drummer with a traditional drum kit and then spent all my programming time trying to make it produce sufficiently contrasty sounds!
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Post by blinddrew »

I don't suppose anyone has heard anymore about the BCR32?
My bcr2000 starts playing up in the cold weather and messes up the pc sometimes.
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