Windows 11, will be launched by October 2021

[resistorman]

I almost made the jump to a Mac M1 laptop, had an Air in the shopping cart. When they wanted almost half the price of the machine to add a measly 8 gigs of RAM and 256 gigs of storage, I just couldn't make myself do it. I ordered up an Acer Swift X SFX14-41G-R1S6 for just under $1100 instead. This is a badass little machine. I see it's gone up a few hundred since I ordered it. Strange times. Anyhow, I'll upgrade it eventually to Win 11 when apps start to require it, but I could stay indefinitely on Win 10, it works fine for me. Also, they won't be shoving "feature upgrades" down my throat twice a year since they'll be concentrating on Win 11. I'll be very happy with just an occasional security update.

[OneWorld]

I almost made the jump to a Mac M1 laptop, had an Air in the shopping cart. When they wanted almost half the price of the machine to add a measly 8 gigs of RAM and 256 gigs of storage, I just couldn't make myself do it. I ordered up an Acer Swift X SFX14-41G-R1S6 for just under $1100 instead. This is a badass little machine. I see it's gone up a few hundred since I ordered it. Strange times. Anyhow, I'll upgrade it eventually to Win 11 when apps start to require it, but I could stay indefinitely on Win 10, it works fine for me. Also, they won't be shoving "feature upgrades" down my throat twice a year since they'll be concentrating on Win 11. I'll be very happy with just an occasional security update.

This is why the US banned Huawei, their products were beginning to outsell Apple with superior products at half the price, nothing to do with security

[Hugh Robjohns]

This is why the US banned Huawei, their products were beginning to outsell Apple...

Oh, is that the reason? Who'd a thunk it...

[Mike Stranks]

This is why the US banned Huawei, their products were beginning to outsell Apple with superior products at half the price, nothing to do with security

... said a well-known Sinophile...

[OneWorld]

This is why the US banned Huawei, their products were beginning to outsell Apple with superior products at half the price, nothing to do with security

... said a well-known Sinophile...

Yep, rather be that than a hater

[Mike Stranks]

This is why the US banned Huawei, their products were beginning to outsell Apple with superior products at half the price, nothing to do with security

... said a well-known Sinophile...

Yep, rather be that than a hater

I find it strange that you can be so uncritical of China when there are so many reports from so many respected bodies around the world that raise very serious concerns about the behaviours of the communist government there.

I'm not a hater of the Chinese government... but I am a strong questioner of the way they conduct themselves... as I am of aspects of other regimes around the world.

But the Mods can rest easy... I'm not going to go any further with this here.

[OneWorld]

This is why the US banned Huawei, their products were beginning to outsell Apple with superior products at half the price, nothing to do with security

... said a well-known Sinophile...

Yep, rather be that than a hater

I find it strange that you can be so uncritical of China when there are so many reports from so many respected bodies around the world that raise very serious concerns about the behaviours of the communist government there.

I'm not a hater of the Chinese government... but I am a strong questioner of the way they conduct themselves... as I am of aspects of other regimes around the world.

But the Mods can rest easy... I'm not going to go any further with this here.

And those reports come from where? Oh, the western media perchance? The same media that told us there were WMDs in Iraq and whipped up fervour whereby the haters demonised the Iraqis and as a result 250,000 innocent men, women and children were killed, ordinary people going about their business blown to bits, and now we have a refugee crisis where millions and millions of Iraqis, Afganis, Libyans, Syrians et al who have been bombed out of house and home have fled to Europe.

In the West it is verified we have imprisonment without trial (Guantanamo) extraordinary rendition, water boarding, extra-judicial killings, chemical warfare, unlawful sequestration of assets (£billions of Venezuelan oil assets stolen by the USA and UK reducing Venezuelan economy to wretched poverty because it dared to vote in a socialist government) imposing in humane sanctions on countries such as Iran, Nicaragua, Cuba, when testing the atom bombs in the South Pacific the islanders that inhabited islands near the test sites were used as test objects to measure the effects - some died, many were left hideously deformed and even their offspring were equally affected, those responsible, you can guess who, the same old faces, refused to pay compensation or paid peanuts, I could go on and on.

But I ask you this simple question - since the end of wwii, which country has been involved in the most wars and killed most people, here’s a clue Vietnam (2million) Iraq(250,000 - some say 1million), Cambodia, Afghanistan etc

We only know what we are told, and I reckon we are told a load of bullocks. I decided this when in my 20’s and amongst my friends were haters, that indulged in “P*ki Bashing” or beating up blacks that were said to be all sorts of horrid things, but I thought to myself “I know Pakistanis and blacks and Indians and they are fine”

So I packed in my job and went to to see the world for myself, but the poor world, which I’d read about, that were nothing but wretched, totalitarian banana republic dictatorships and guess what? I found people hospitable, noble, clever, witty, kind, generous and most of all, people just like, and even though many of these countries had been under the jackboot of colonialism, imperialism, slavery, and in the case of China, turned into opium addicts, none of those countries were bitter haters, no, they were more pragmatic, somewhat bemused by the meddling of the West, that promised harmony, by way of conflict?

I remember being in conversation with an elderly Vietnamese lady, and of course I had to ask about the war and asked why does she think the Americans are always going on about the Vietnamese War, yet the Vietnamese hardly mentioned it - “Why do you think that is?” I asked and she smiled and said “Because we won I guess” oh if I were to wish for anything it would be a £1 for every time I was given a nugget of wisdom from one of those common people that had lived a life by way of experience and not vicariously by way of a media with a vested interest and monied owner.

Now it is the Chinese the West is preaching to, although as with the WMDs, not one single verifiable scintilla of evidence. On the question of the ‘Genocide of Muslim Uighars in Xinjiang’ China has been supported at UN Congress by some 60+ countries, the majority being Muslim countries. The claims about imprisonment come from a rabble of some convicted terrorists who hope to gain political asylum in the West, which has been refused as they were members of the ISIS associated ETIM, that want to establish a caliphate in Xinjiang. Here’s a thing though, despite the ‘genocide’ the Uighar population has risen and thrived and there are more mosques than Chinese takeaways.

Riddle me this - if Xinjiang is such a horrible place for the Muslims, how come they aren’t leaving in their droves, as they are in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and as of last week we are too, 20 years there and still couldn’t beat the Taliban and warlords who sent us packing for the third time in recent history after trying yet again trying to impose western democracy where they didn’t ask for it, don’t want it and will never have it, so will we never learn to stop sticking our noses into other countries and maybe swill our own stables out first

The USA (and when they itch we scratch) always has to have an enemy, war is a very lucrative enterprise, during the MaCarthyite period it was reds under the beds, prior to that the “Yellow Peril” along came Islamophobia, now it’s Sinophobia.

How many bad Chinese people do you personally know, what have they done to you?

Put yourself in the shoes of a Chinese person, now resident in this country, could be a takeaway owner, a doctor or nurse, solicitor, academic, finance worker, or other worker, ok I am being stereotypical, but have you ever seen a Chinese person in the dole queue? And think what it must be like hearing, reading, watching the news and being subject to this unrelenting onslaught of Sinophobic hate preaching.

Or imagine yourself in China, as an English person, and everywhere you turn, you are demonised. I have spent time in China and never once treated with anything but respect, kindness and humility. There is a considerable ex-pat community in China, and they say the same. Ok there are the exception to the rule such as that bloke a while ago got a report published in the media about slave labour in prisons in China. Turns out he was a convicted fraudster and under scrutiny his story didn’t stack up. The slave labour was packing greetings cards, and being paid, as prisoners do in this country. By the way, the prison population per capita in China is a fraction of ours and re-offended very low. All inmates are taught a trade, electrician, builder, carpenter etc, the Chinese believe having a purpose in life and a decent wage keeps people from crime. China has less laws than we do, one minister said “Make more laws and all you get is more criminals, we would rather make more opportunities”

No, you won’t understand why I have this love of China, it is not that, but a love of equality, and the hope that one day the media will represent the truth and an unbiased opinion. There was the story, said to be true, that some powerful media baron in the USA sent a reporter to some poor backwater of one of those Latin American banana republics, to report on a civil war. The reporter got there and found no war, all was peaceful, so he called his boss and told him so, the boss replied “I’ll start one then”

[adrian_k]

Hmm.. I came here looking for news on W11 upgrade?

[blinddrew]

Hmm.. I came here looking for news on W11 upgrade?

This is about 10 hours old, suggests October for main rollout: https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/07/1 ... indows-11/

[OneWorld]

Hmm.. I came here looking for news on W11 upgrade?

Here....

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insid ... indows-11/

[tea for two]

Someone will write a Win11 Skin to make Win10, Win7 look as Win11.
They've done it before.
I've installed before.

I will install Win11 Skin on my Win10 laptop. I like the look of Win11.
I don't want to messup my Win10 with various sw running steadily by installing Win11.