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Post by damonbrockmusic »

damonbrockmusic wrote:Thanks all. Great help.

I’ve a plan now for panels etc.

Anyone have any advice regarding the LVT flooring by any chance?

Apologies for the chase, but if anyone has any knowledge or advice regarding flooring, please drop me a note here asap as I need to confirm v soon

Thanks!
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Hi all

Me again - this time the Q is about the internal acoustics.

The building is up and soundproofing is getting done next week.

My small room set up will be desk at one end, door at the other.

I'm very nervous as the installer's plan is to install a full wall acoustic panel on one of the side walls, with 6 other panels, I believe three on the opposite side wall, one at the back behind my desk, and two on the door wall. I think all panels are absorbers. He's providing floating corner bass traps for me to try out.

I'm worried that the full wall panel will kill the resonance and deaden the sound, and the cost of remedying the wrong install would be pretty huge I think.

Any thoughts and advice would be most welcome.

I've read through Black Ghost Audio's webpage about acoustic treatment and make sense to me.

Thanks for any input
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Post by Hugh Robjohns »

I don't think this is something that can be analysed remotely. It's something you'll need to discuss with your acoustic designer to make sure the room meets your requirements and expectations.

It might help if your builders can take you to a previous similar construction so you can get a first-hand idea of what it sounds like with their proposed acoustic treatment.

You said at the start you wanted a lively room for recording acoustic instruments, which is fair enough... but that also becomes problematic if you also plan to mix tracks in the room, or you want to record instruments and voices in a neutral acoustic environment. You already have a wooden floor, I believe, which will provide some liveness, especially as you have no ceiling treatment.

Remember, it's generally much easier to make a controlled room livelier, than it is to make a live room more controlled, simply by introducing reflective surfaces (permanent or temporary) in front of the absorbing panels. Most pro studios have acoustic screens with reflective surfaces on one side and absorptive panels on the other, for example. And I've seen plenty of studios that have acoustic panels mounted on hinges so that they can be folded closed to reveal a hard reflective backing, or opened out to reveal an absorption panel... And others with vinyl roller blinds mounted above the acoustic panels which can be pulled down to introduce some extra HF reflection as desired... I'm sure you can think of many other similar possibilities of introducing some acoustic variability.
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Hi Hugh

Thanks for getting back so quick.

Yes, I was thinking that if it's not possible to change the order as we're only a few days from install, then reflective panels could be used to create the desired effect as and when I want it.

I know I'm asking for a lot from a small room, so I guess flexibility is the key.
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A follow on Q I have is - will the install, as I described it 2 posts ago, as it's not symettrical, create acoustic problems?
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Without seeing the plans it's not possible to say.

If you're just using the room as a recording space, then no, it's unlikely that it will be problematic.

But if you plan to mix in there a lack of symmetry could result in imaging problems. The most important point is that you should have absorber panels on the mirror points. So if one of more of the isolated panels is positioned appropriately it should be okay. But if you end up with a blank wall at a mirror point it probably won't be!

So you'll need to work out where you desk is going, where the speakers are going, and where the reflection points will be... and then have a conversation with your builder.
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Thanks Hugh, that was gonna be my plan.
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I'd add that if you have a hard floor you really need some ceiling panels (see my post above) or you will have flutter echos between the floor and ceiling.
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Sam Spoons wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:34 pm I'd add that if you have a hard floor you really need some ceiling panels (see my post above) or you will have flutter echos between the floor and ceiling.

And as long as you have reasonable ceiling height, installing ceiling traps are a great way to add further absorption if and when you need it, and you even within reason make them adjustable if you subsequently need to liven the room up a bit for recording purposes.

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Thanks both. I’m gonna see what it sounds like and add ceiling trap if need be. Will also get a rug to really tie the room together as and when I need.
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damonbrockmusic wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:07 pm Will also get a rug to really tie the room together

You wouldn't happen to be a fan of "The Big Lebowski"?
If not, this (like most of my posts) won't make any sense and can be safely ignored. (again, like most of my posts!)
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Kwackman wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:59 pm
damonbrockmusic wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:07 pm Will also get a rug to really tie the room together

You wouldn't happen to be a fan of "The Big Lebowski"?
If not, this (like most of my posts) won't make any sense and can be safely ignored. (again, like most of my posts!)

Am I the only one around here...
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