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Post by forumuser909788 »

Thanks for the info Eddy. I got a reply from Korg, saying that they have no plans to make sounds backwards compatible with the hardware.

I replied mentioning this wheel 3 problem. It just seems weird that you can define 2 controllers in the Arp page but only 1 in the global settings.

Reason can be a bit weird when it comes to controllers anyway. I shall post when I get a reply from Korg.
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Re: New Korg Legacy instruments

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For info, wheel 3 seemed to be driven by breath pressure on the EWI quite naturally.
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Re: New Korg Legacy instruments

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OK, so...just taking another look at this. Breath pressure on the EWI drives wheel 3 by default, moving from centre upwards, and I'm pretty sure this is the "overblowing" mechanism, though even with the wheel moving fully upwards the overblowing sounds nothing like the hardware on "Airworks". It's very subtle. (Assuming that the hardware patch was "Airworks".)

Here's the readout from MidiOx showing what the EWI is sending when I vary breath pressure.

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Ignore the aftertouch, I've turned that off now, and the Breath CC moves wheel 3 on everything.

(If the strange vibrato patch was Airworks, and aftertouch is driving wheel 2, I'd be interested to hear the result if it could be remapped to drive wheel 3 upwards instead.)
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Interesting; the B0 02 (Breath) CC messages were what I saw coming from the Trinity as well but they didn't move wheel 3 in the VST in Studio One.

I'll have another poke around at it later tonight or tomorrow.

Oh, yes, it was Airworks by the way.
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Re: New Korg Legacy instruments

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Hi.

Having spent ages trying to figure out why Airworks didn't match I have realised that the pitch modulation is completely wrong on both the Reed and Brass models.

Applying any pitch mod just sounds like a standard oscillator, rather than introducing all of the harmonic changes of overblowing etc that you get on the hardware.

I also did loads of tests on the controllers, making sure that it wasn't me or Reason at fault. I can't get the log Dir - to work properly in Reason, although it works fine as a standalone.

I definitely think that Korg have messed up on the implementation of the log, hence only one Wheel 3 controller in the Global page. I let them know earlier. I shall get back in touch with my thoughts on the pitch mod and post when I hear something.

This would explain why some of my more industrial sounds, based on the physical models, are just silent in the software. I haven't checked the plucked string model yet. Time for my nap!
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