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MOF wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:34 pm I know why it was brought in but I would have thought that those who have such issues could have just used secure web browsing.
N.B. I’m not an expert in such matters so maybe I’m missing something.

Secure web browsing provides effective protection against people snooping on, or modifying, the data between you and the server hosting the site you are browsing. If set up at the server end correctly it also provides a measure of certainty that the site is who they claim to be.

As secure browsing only protects the connection between you and 'the other end', the other end knows exactly what you're doing and looking at anyway.

The cookie rules are intended to address a rather different problem; that of sites (usually advertisers) tracking you over time and building up a picture of the kinds of sites you visit with a view to targetting adverts at you that they think you are more likely to respond to.

Unfortunately it's rather harder to prevent the tracking than it is to protect your connection from unauthorised snoopers. I've seen it written that the EU are looking at tightening the existing rules further with a view to reducing the inconvenience of those annoying cookie preference pages, many of which use layouts designed to trick you into agreeing with something you wouldn't otherwise have done.

Hopefully they will be further restricted from ramming advertising and tracking at us so relentlessly, but we'll see. In the meantime there are great browser add-ons such as uBlock Origin which do a great job of holding the trackers and averts at bay where they are not wanted.
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Gmail and most decent email services also allow all addresses with a plus + sign and some text/numbers before the @ symbol to be routed to the original email account.

I use this for beta-testing, but also with online forms to identify unwanted follow-up spam if they sell on your email address.

For example, all of the following will get to the one In Box:

myname@gmail.com
myname+nhs@gmail.com
myname+amazon@gmail.com
myname+az@gmail.com
myname+dvla@gmail.com

The downside is that certain not-so-social companies don't allow such email addresses; or they remove anything after the + sign and bingo, they have a legit email address to spam. :(
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Re: How many times do I have to accept cookies?

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Secure web browsing provides effective protection against people snooping on, or modifying, the data between you and the server hosting the site you are browsing

I thought it stopped any record of your searches, both in local browser cache and on websites i.e. cookies.
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Re: How many times do I have to accept cookies?

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MOF wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:18 pm
Secure web browsing provides effective protection against people snooping on, or modifying, the data between you and the server hosting the site you are browsing

I thought it stopped any record of your searches, both in local browser cache and on websites i.e. cookies.

Ah, you mean 'Incognito', aka 'private' mode? I thought you meant SSL (https).

Incognito mode is something else altogether. It is a halfway house that doesn't offer as much privacy as most people think but offers more than if you haven't got it turned on.

Websites you access still know exactly what you're doing and it doesn't block ads but some or all of the tracking during the session will be deleted automatically when you quit the browser or exit back to 'normal' mode.

Your ISP knows which websites you're connecting to (and for how long) but if you're using https:// then they won't know which pages you are accessing there (this is true regardless of whether you're in incognito mode or not).

Cookies from the incognito session are usually deleted automatically, and browsing history from the incognito session isn't saved (but details of this may vary depending on your browser).

Downloads made during an incognito session may still show up in your download history after you've exited incognito mode - again, it depends to some extent on the browser.

Browser plugins may or may not function in incognito mode - usually there is an option per plugin provided by the browser somewhere in 'manage plugins/addons' or equivalent which sets whether that plugin functions when you're in incognito mode.
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Ah, you mean 'Incognito', aka 'private' mode? I thought you meant SSL (https).

Thanks for the information Eddy. Yes I meant ’private’ mode.
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Re: How many times do I have to accept cookies?

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MOF wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:37 am
Ah, you mean 'Incognito', aka 'private' mode? I thought you meant SSL (https).

Thanks for the information Eddy. Yes I meant ’private’ mode.

You're welcome and to be clear 'incognito' is the same as 'private' mode in the context of my last post. Different browsers call it different things :thumbup:

James Perrett wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:57 pm Gmail addresses can contain dots anywhere in the address and you can have more than one dot. So you could have Sample.Email for one sender, SampleEmail for another, Sam.ple.email for another and sample.em.ail for a fourth - and so on. They will all end up at the same place but, if you keep a record of which email was given to who, you know where the leak has come from.

In addition, gmail also supports the use of a 'plus' sign after your usual email username. So if your email was (for example) my_username @ gmail.com then you can use my_username+this_site @ gmail.com or my_username+thisthatortheother @ gmail.com .. basically anything you like after the '+' symbol in your username.

It'll all get delivered to you (try it out for yourself first and see) and is another way of associating specific email addresses to specific sites in order to identify those that pass your details on without your knowledge or consent.
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