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The Presonus websites says the StudioLive 16 III.......

"With 128 channels (64x64) of USB I/O, the StudioLive 16 is not just the best digital mixer for live sound recording; it’s the best digital mixer for the studio as well. Each channel can independently access its analog input or its dedicated digital return from your computer. And recording is simple and easy. Studio One and the StudioLive 16 digital mixer are the perfect pair to elevate your studio recordings. "

128 channels, on a 16 channel mixer, really? OK 64 in and 64 out. But can USB2 handle 64 channels? Not that I would ever use that many, and it claims it records 32 tracks to an SD card?

Any Presonus users out there?
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Sam Spoons wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:12 pm Internet abbreviation for "if I remember correctly" :thumbup: I've checked and I did :D

Thanks. So if I understand you correctly. The x32s come with a 32x32 interface card, but if I wanted to record, I would swap that card out for one that works as 32x32 interface and 32 track recorder? Although some suppliers, might sell it with the interface+recording interface?
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Re: Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK

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OneWorld wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:16 pm
Sam Spoons wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:12 pm Internet abbreviation for "if I remember correctly" :thumbup: I've checked and I did :D

Thanks. So if I understand you correctly. The x32s come with a 32x32 interface card, but if I wanted to record, I would swap that card out for one that works as 32x32 interface and 32 track recorder? Although some suppliers, might sell it with the interface+recording interface?

But I am sure I have read somewhere, there are no templates for Cubase, only templates/emulation for ProTools or of course Studio One?


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If you want to record to a computer it will do that out of the box, if you need stand alone recording (no computer) then you'll need the X-Live card which does both.
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Sam Spoons wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:26 pm If you want to record to a computer it will do that out of the box, if you need stand alone recording (no computer) then you'll need the X-Live card which does both.

Got it, thanks
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Oh dear, I have been looking for user reviews of the StudioLive 16 III and the first one that came up......

"I'M DONE WITH PRESONUS!
I have never made a bad review before, but it's time. This review is about Presonus. Simply stated, if you're a professional, Presonus is not the way to go. I'm sure there are exceptions but IMO, If you want solid gear that lasts, look elsewhere."

Behringer is nosing in front of the rest of the pack and one of the appealing factors is reliability, how things change
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The X32 and what followed has been a game changer for Berry in more ways than one. Back when they had sold 300,000 of them Thomann reported a lower than industry average return rate (around 2% IIRC) and I've seen no reports of significant problems over the years, seems like the new factory has achieved it's aims.
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Don't forget the X32 has significant DAW control-surface abilities as well, if you install X32Reaper.

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OneWorld wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:05 pm Oh dear, I have been looking for user reviews of the StudioLive 16 III and the first one that came up......

"I'M DONE WITH PRESONUS!
I have never made a bad review before, but it's time. This review is about Presonus. Simply stated, if you're a professional, Presonus is not the way to go. I'm sure there are exceptions but IMO, If you want solid gear that lasts, look elsewhere."

Behringer is nosing in front of the rest of the pack and one of the appealing factors is reliability, how things change

I may not be looking at the right place or product, but I'm getting a message from the Presonus website that the StudioLive 16 III is discontinued.

I can only comment about my 16.0.2 - max 12 mics. It was quite a few years ago now and I only used it live, but it was faultless.

But if I was buying now and wanting recording capabilities I'd probably be considering one of the smaller x32s or the Qu16.
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Mike Stranks wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:29 pm
OneWorld wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:05 pm Oh dear, I have been looking for user reviews of the StudioLive 16 III and the first one that came up......

"I'M DONE WITH PRESONUS!
I have never made a bad review before, but it's time. This review is about Presonus. Simply stated, if you're a professional, Presonus is not the way to go. I'm sure there are exceptions but IMO, If you want solid gear that lasts, look elsewhere."

Behringer is nosing in front of the rest of the pack and one of the appealing factors is reliability, how things change

I may not be looking at the right place or product, but I'm getting a message from the Presonus website that the StudioLive 16 III is discontinued.

I can only comment about my 16.0.2 - max 12 mics. It was quite a few years ago now and I only used it live, but it was faultless.

But if I was buying now and wanting recording capabilities I'd probably be considering one of the smaller x32s or the Qu16.

Yes the Studiolive 16 III does seem to have been discontinued, seemingly replaced by the 32SC and yes the x32 or QU16 are looking good
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Re: Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK

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It's a long time ago when I was buying but I seriously considered and compared the X32 Compact and the Qu16. I was, and still am, a bit of an Allen & Heath fanboi but I ended up buying the X32.

The factors to consider are mostly to do with the flexibility and processing power of the X32 and the analogue like workflow of the Qu. At the time, the Qu could only process 22 inputs whatever the source while the X32C had the capability of handling the same 40/22 I/O as the full sized X32 using it's onboard I/O in addition to up to 96 AES50 sources.

In my case it was not a particularly difficult choice as I knew I would, ultimately, need a stagebox (I bought an X32 Rack for that job).
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