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Still I have trouble believing that this youth movement of extaticly screaming girls was completly organic. Just my impression.

It wasn’t the first time that it happened, Sinatra then Elvis before The Beatles.
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MOF wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:07 pm It wasn’t the first time that it happened, Sinatra then Elvis before The Beatles.

And then....

The Bay City Rollers.

Where did it all go wrong?

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zenguitar wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:59 pm
MOF wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:07 pm It wasn’t the first time that it happened, Sinatra then Elvis before The Beatles.

And then....

The Bay City Rollers.

Where did it all go wrong?

Andy :beamup:

And the Osmonds….
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The Osmonds - they were big - incredible to think that "crazy horses" is almost 50yrs old & still valid.

I dont really remember hearing about fan hysteria after the 70s - is it still a thing ? Scratching my head to remember the Robbie Williams or Spice girls era.
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The Osmonds - they were big - incredible to think that "crazy horses" is almost 50yrs old & still valid.

They were booked to do a heavy metal concert on the back of that, the rest of their repertoire didn’t go down as well.
I bought a Living Colour album because I liked the pop single, the other tracks were heavy metal, so that went back to the shop. :lol:
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MOF wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:07 pm
Still I have trouble believing that this youth movement of extaticly screaming girls was completly organic. Just my impression.

It wasn’t the first time that it happened, Sinatra then Elvis before The Beatles.

To be fair, Sinatra was not completly organic but heavly pushed by the new york(?) mafia. Might be that there could be something comparable going on with Elvis and the beatles. Interestingly Sinatra was pushed at a time where men were overseas in a war. Sinatra payed off a doctor to avoid service if I remember correctly.
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To be fair, Sinatra was not completly organic but heavly pushed by the new york(?) mafia.

There are suggestions that he got a few film roles that way but I can’t see how the Mafia had any influence on girls screaming or his success as a crooner. :lol:
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Radiophonic wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:29 pm
To be fair, Sinatra was not completly organic but heavly pushed by the new york mafia(?)

Wasn't it the new york, new york mafia?
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:clap::clap:

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Radiophonic wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:29 pm
MOF wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:07 pm
Still I have trouble believing that this youth movement of extaticly screaming girls was completly organic. Just my impression.

It wasn’t the first time that it happened, Sinatra then Elvis before The Beatles.

To be fair, Sinatra was not completly organic but heavly pushed by the new york(?) mafia. Might be that there could be something comparable going on with Elvis and the beatles. Interestingly Sinatra was pushed at a time where men were overseas in a war. Sinatra payed off a doctor to avoid service if I remember correctly.

According to Wikipedia…

Sinatra did not serve in the military during World War II. On December 11, 1943, he was officially classified 4-F ("Registrant not acceptable for military service") by his draft board because of a perforated eardrum. However, U.S. Army files reported that Sinatra was "not acceptable material from a psychiatric viewpoint", but his emotional instability was hidden to avoid "undue unpleasantness for both the selectee and the induction service".[106] Briefly, there were rumors reported by columnist Walter Winchell that Sinatra paid $40,000 to avoid the service, but the FBI found this to be without merit

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Re: Common misconceptions of the music business

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MixAndMatch wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:59 pm
Radiophonic wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:29 pm
To be fair, Sinatra was not completly organic but heavly pushed by the new york mafia(?)

Wasn't it the new york, new york mafia?

Yes, the mafia of number ones, vagabond shoes, the king of the hill.

https://youtu.be/4nMUr8Rt2AI

MOF wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:38 pm There are suggestions that he got a few film roles that way but I can’t see how the Mafia had any influence on girls screaming or his success as a crooner. :lol:

Thats a quite nice and subtle hint there. The italian mafia was not particularly known to have direct ties to the film industry, but I won't say no more. Haha

https://youtu.be/GR5lgHUtH54
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