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Kwackman wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:00 pm
ef37a wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:14 pmalways use the opposite gender connector to hold the actual 'job'.

When I learnt this many years ago, it changed my soldering life for ever! Especially making MIDI cables.

I used to have a block of wood with holes for just about every plug imaginable - it mysteriously disappeared from my tool box one day :cry:
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Folderol wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:08 pm I used to have a block of wood with holes for just about every plug imaginable - it mysteriously disappeared from my tool box one day :cry:

I really ought to have a go at making one of those for my own use, as those seemingly clever workmates with magnifying glasses and adjustable crocodile clips have an infuriating habit of dropping the plug at the least provocation :madas:

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I use one of my ART DTI boxes. There's always one kicking around the studio and it makes the perfect solution for holding a connector in place while I'm soldering.
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MOF wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:58 pm
These are going to be a real challenge to my significantly attenuated soldering skils!

You won’t want to try soldering the 4pin Lemo connector that Sound Devices use for their Timecode socket then. The pins are so close to one another that solder just bridged the very small gap no matter how careful I was. I ended up threading a strip of paper around the pins I didn’t want to solder cable to.
Sound Devices also use TA3 (mini xlr) connectors to save space on some inputs and outputs.

Yes the 4 pin Lemo, I have a few Trantec wireless systems that use a 4 pin Lemo, not the easiest things to wire at all. My dB units that use a custom locking 3.5mm TS are much easier, though it requires a specific model of beltpack transmitter if you don't want power present.

As for mini XLR, I was going to use one of the 5 pin Rean connectors for replacing the 5 pin unobtainum connectors on some very old TOA transmitters but haven't got around to it yet, in reality all 5 pins are not needed for most uses but I wanted to maintain the pinout.

Anyone who has had any experience with wireless systems will be experienced in a few different tiny connectors and they are all a bit of a pain!
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I've got a rig I built for regular xlrs and 1/4" jacks that includes a toggle clamp to hold the cable and adding additional connectors wouldn't be too hard, but I'm still tempted by https://www.austinmics.com/hot-holder-pro/
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Hugh Robjohns wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:48 am I use one of my ART DTI boxes. There's always one kicking around the studio and it makes the perfect solution for holding a connector in place while I'm soldering.

I've found the Behringer cable tester has all the needed sockets in a handy steel lump that makes cable making a lot easier.
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MarkOne wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:40 am
Hugh Robjohns wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:48 am I use one of my ART DTI boxes. There's always one kicking around the studio and it makes the perfect solution for holding a connector in place while I'm soldering.

I've found the Behringer cable tester has all the needed sockets in a handy steel lump that makes cable making a lot easier.

Good call! I use a vice whose jaws can be tilted left/right and front/back to give the best 'approach angle' for the iron, and an illuminated magnifier. The problem I have these days is a slight tremor in my 'soldering' hand... :( which is why I'm turning more to 'made-up' cables if I can find them...
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Re: Mini XLRs

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:D Yep. I've used a StudioSpares cable tester as a soldering base too...
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Hugh, you said "not keen". I am absolutely hissed OFF with the things!

Not just tiny (actually the solder buckets are pretty good) but the bits fly all over the shop. One pin assy' got lost under the settee. Because they fly apart I got the tiny intermediate plastic spacer the wrong way around first shot.
Then, despite THE most ernest concentration I got the wires wrong for the mixer end. The 'VU' LEDs lit up like a Christmas tree! All props to Behringer! I did that twice and it still works, listening to Schoenberg Verklarte Nacht through it atmo. (before he went atonally mad I think?)

The connectors can also only accept the smallest of cables. I had to drill out the back end to take the ~4.5mm power cable and even the 3mm mixer 2core + drain wire was a struggle.

Not going to use the others pair! This was a nice tidy job for son. The other mixer stays here and it is getting clunky XLRs on it!

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Re: Mini XLRs

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Once again I'm reminded of a comment made by 'Henry' in Practical Wireless in the mid 1960s
"... but if it's smaller than the knob that turns it on, what's the point?"
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Folderol wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:07 pm Once again I'm reminded of a comment made by 'Henry' in Practical Wireless in the mid 1960s
"... but if it's smaller than the knob that turns it on, what's the point?"

:lol::mrgreen:
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Funkyflash5 wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:00 am I've got a rig I built for regular xlrs and 1/4" jacks that includes a toggle clamp to hold the cable and adding additional connectors wouldn't be too hard, but I'm still tempted by https://www.austinmics.com/hot-holder-pro/

Wow - now THAT's a thing of beauty!! 8-)

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Bit pricey at $59 though :(
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