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Can Neil Young Demand This?

Post by awjoe »

Here's a story fresh off CBC:

"Late Monday, Canadian singer and songwriter Neil Young posted an open letter to his personal website, demanding that music streamer Spotify remove his music from its service.

In the since-deleted letter, Young explained he wants his music gone since Spotify also hosts a podcast by comedian and actor Joe Rogan. Young stated since that podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, has shared misleading statements about the COVID-19 pandemic, his music has no place on the streaming service."

Okay, educate me. I thought it was up to the artist whether or not to use Spotify for streaming their stuff. And if, for whatever reason, it's not up to the artist, then is it true that Young isn't really in a position to demand anything?

I'm not criticizing Young, I'm just curious about the dynamics of this situation.
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Post by Moroccomoose »

He sold the rights to half of his songs for $150M, so I guess he has no say over those!

I suspect there is quite a machine behind his music with vested interest in his music staying on Spotify.

But he is a bit of an anarchist, so I'm sure he'll rattle some cages for a while. If he does manage to pull his music, I guess I'll just have to dig out the CDs!

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Post by BigRedX »

IIRC he only sold his publishing, so he should still have a say in how his music is used/exploited.

I would say this is more about getting Joe Rogan removed from Spotify than Neil Young wanting the service to stop streaming his music.
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Why are all these rich musicians selling the rights to their stuff? Do they need the money?
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Post by blinddrew »

Well, he can demand what he wants, but what the contracts say is another matter...

It's worth remembering as well that Mr Young has a bit of history with Spotify and he has previously tried to set up his own competing (high quality) service.
Not that I think that's what's actually driving this. But what I think doesn't matter either. :)

To Arpangel's question, I guess it gives them a solid financial basis to plan for their kids rather than having something as potentially transitory as royalties.
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Post by MarkOne »

Arpangel wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:46 am Why are all these rich musicians selling the rights to their stuff? Do they need the money?

Presumably they are looking at their financial legacy to loved ones. The maths become: How many more years of royalties in my lifetime vs. A big lump sum I can dispose of over the next few years in a tax efficient way to my nearest and dearest.

And at the moment the big labels are apparently willing to pay sums big enough to ensure the latter is a bigger number.

Also I suspect many are selling their mechanical rights and keeping the songwriter rights to always allow them to go back and revisit the songs in new recordings. Just guessing here.

Oops Drew beat me to the punch!
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Arpangel wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:46 am Why are all these rich musicians selling the rights to their stuff? Do they need the money?

I suppose with the laws of diminishing returns, not moving as many units as they once did, they are cashing in, possibly putting their £millions into a high interest pension fund which will pay the bills and help them get by. Need the money? I guess not, but money goes to money anyway, so I guess they might as well milk it for all it's worth
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Post by ManFromGlass »

And he has to pay storage costs on all those unsold Pony or whatever units collecting dust in his back shed
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ManFromGlass wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:14 pm And he has to pay storage costs on all those unsold Pony or whatever units collecting dust in his back shed
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Neil Young was always a bit of a one tricker pony to me. His intention were/are good, but my ears sort of turned off when someone bunged one of his CDs into the deck, sort of like Leonerd Cohen with a whiny voice, I suppose Cohen and Young would have made for a good duo, but the opposite of Laurel & Hardy in that they are both a bit whiny
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Post by Sam Spoons »

Not a fan of Leonard Cohen (and I'll never forgive him for inflicting "Hallelujah" on the world* :madas: ) but I like quite a lot of Neil Young's back catalogue, he has got a whiny voice I agree but I'm prepared to forgive that for sublime songs like Heart of Gold, Old Man, The Needle and the Damage Done, Harvest Moon and quite a few others.

* I did PA for a school choir contest, not sure if Hallejuah was a compulsory inclusion or just popular but every one of the junior choirs sang the bl00dy thing.... badly... :headbang:
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Neil Young? Essential.
Great guitarist, all over the place, on the edge.
Harvest is still in my top albums.
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'Tonight's the Night' is a twisted masterpiece. Just saying.
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