Cortado MK3III - Contact Mic Review

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Wonks wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:43 am
shufflebeat wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:29 pm You could, of course, just spend £5 on a plastic karaoke mic and dip it in custard. That would be different, and delicious.

If he dipped the mic in custard, what would
he fill his wellies with instead whilst wearing them?


Mmm, I hadn't thought of that.
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Martin Walker wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:57 pm Aha - your 'hot tips' are proving most useful shufflebeat 8-)

Warning - hot custard is hot.

(Can't be too careful).
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I’ve always thought cheese would be a fantastic insulator. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve burnt the inside of my mouth because I thought the cheese was cooled down enough.
and, perhaps best news,
today my Cortado gets delivered! :lol:
I thought about going for the much cheaper MkII kit but the extra features made the MKIII the right choice. But if I needed stereo I would probably order a MKII.
Then between cheese and soldering iron I would end up with more scars.
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I think you are now going to have to see what melted cheese sounds like through the cortado...
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Re: Cortado MK3III - Contact Mic Review

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I'll fetch the custard for comparison.

But...

When I buy a mic I want either reality, enhanced reality or convenience. Where does the Cortado fit I to this?

I'm not scorn-heaping here, just wondering.
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For me, it's both. My environment is going to be very noisy at times over the next few years. I can get a usable guitar recording from the Cortado that easily trumps anything I can get from onboard piezo pick-up. It will also work as a live mic for the Guinjo or mandolin (which have no pick-up) and I expect will do the same for the double bass.
Then there's the fun stuff of just mic'ing stuff up because you can and seeing what you get out of it. :)
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blinddrew wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm Then there's the fun stuff of just mic'ing stuff up because you can and seeing what you get out of it. :)

This is the clincher for me :thumbup:

I love musicians/artists who incorporate strange little sounds into their compositions to make them sound unique - it adds such character!
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Will_m wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 1:33 am I did a review of the Cortado MK3III contact mic from Zeppelin Design Labs. Check it out here:

https://youtu.be/xG_qyCRFSvA

Triffic review Will.

One thing I liked focused on the Cortado (not on yourself).

Amount of times Keith Floyd said to Beeb camera person "Not me, The Food !"

It is one of my pet peeves of video product reviews, video product demos : the amount of too much showing of presenter : please be a bit selfless, it's about the Product.

I appreciate you making it all about the Cortado.
(for privacy reasons I would do same).

For a fan of Yello, Art of Noise, JmJarre imaginative use of sampling, which I am, this Cortado seems triffic.
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Just a quick sample from me. There was a combination chainsawing and jackhammering going on the other day but I really wanted to capture what I was working so I grabbed the Cortado.
The guitar part here is the result: https://soundcloud.com/blinddrew/the-no ... ny21cCBfuh
I was actually playing very quietly (just written, wasn't too confident) so as a result it needed a bit of processing. Voice De-noiser and De-click* from Izotope RX, a couple of eq notches, and a bit of HF shelf lift (to compensate for the wide-band de-click).

* One thing I did discover on this recording is that you do have to be careful with the cable. If it's a fixed mounting that's fine, but on a mobile item (like a guitar), particularly if it's being played quietly, if the cable is swaying slightly when you move it can lead to clicking sounds. Because I didn't notice it at the time I'm not sure if this was from micro-taps of the cable against the guitar top or against the floor.
But it's one to watch for.
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Re: Cortado MK3III - Contact Mic Review

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tea for two wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:54 pm
Triffic review Will.

One thing I liked focused on the Cortado (not on yourself).

Amount of times Keith Floyd said to Beeb camera person "Not me, The Food !"

It is one of my pet peeves of video product reviews, video product demos : the amount of too much showing of presenter : please be a bit selfless, it's about the Product.

I appreciate you making it all about the Cortado.
(for privacy reasons I would do same).

For a fan of Yello, Art of Noise, JmJarre imaginative use of sampling, which I am, this Cortado seems triffic.


Thanks! I'm definitely of the same feeling when it comes to reviews, I'm there to see the product and not the reviewers face. Its also just easier to film this way, I can do everything on one camera in one pass (plus a few cutaways).

blinddrew wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:24 am * One thing I did discover on this recording is that you do have to be careful with the cable. If it's a fixed mounting that's fine, but on a mobile item (like a guitar), particularly if it's being played quietly, if the cable is swaying slightly when you move it can lead to clicking sounds. Because I didn't notice it at the time I'm not sure if this was from micro-taps of the cable against the guitar top or against the floor.
But it's one to watch for.


This is something I touched on in the review. I've found from lavalier mics the tougher and harder style cables are more prone to these types of noises, so they do need a bit more cable management.
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Re: Cortado MK3III - Contact Mic Review

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Yep, I thought I'd factored it in but I was obviously moving around a bit more than I thought. :thumbup:
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There must be some kind of thin foam or thick cloth that could help. I can’t imagine not moving much while playing anything. Not that I put on the full spandex and leap about but staying still while playing doesn’t seem natural.
My Cortado arrived but I haven’t had the chance to try it yet, but I’m looking forward to it!
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Oh yes, I'm sure a solution is possible, I just hadn't realised it was necessary.
Playing louder would be a first step to improving the signal to noise ratio.
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tea for two wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:54 pm
Will_m wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 1:33 am I did a review of the Cortado MK3III contact mic from Zeppelin Design Labs. Check it out here:

https://youtu.be/xG_qyCRFSvA

Triffic review Will.

I've just watched it, and totally agree - some great sound design possibilities (I love the 'tambourine friction rolls' and 'effervescent in water' examples in particular).
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an update about my experiences -
I had a live gig playing an mbira (gorgeous sounding African thumb piano) into an ipad looper.
Cortado was perfect for the job. It captured the frequency range that made the instrument sound fantastic.
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:thumbup: a thumb up for thumb piano usage then ;)
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yes - it was really thumbthing . . . . err . . . .
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So it's a digital instrument.
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Analogue was used in its construction (as it's primarily made of wood).
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Wonks wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:50 pm So it's a digital instrument.

:D
with opposable potential!
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