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When the US signs into law $280 billion to invest in technology, including 'chip factories', and the EU are doing something similar, it's obvious the situation is pretty serious!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62482141.amp

If China decided to stop making and selling electronic components to the West we'd be in very deep do-do very quickly!
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Or a very likely scenario of China invading Taiwan and a subsequent Russia-style trade embargo (if not war).
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Re: What’s up with Focusrite supply?

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Hugh Robjohns wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:22 am When the US signs into law $280 billion to invest in technology, including 'chip factories', and the EU are doing something similar, it's obvious the situation is pretty serious!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62482141.amp

If China decided to stop making and selling electronic components to the West we'd be in very deep do-do very quickly!

The issue is, that bleeding edge fabs are a) hugely expensive (I.e. $10B upwards,) and b) take a significant time to be up and running (I.e. years), so while I applaud the initiative, it’s not an overnight fix.

I do think however that with the levels of automation in modern high tech manufacturing, and the closing wage gap with the Far East the only real impediment to far more local manufacturing, is really real estate and construction costs. When you have a dozen skilled engineers looking after a thousand automated lines in a building the size of 10 football fields, it really doesn’t matter if it’s in Shenzhen, Skegness, San Diego, or St Tropez.
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Re: What’s up with Focusrite supply?

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MarkOne wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:10 pm
Hugh Robjohns wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:22 am When the US signs into law $280 billion to invest in technology, including 'chip factories', and the EU are doing something similar, it's obvious the situation is pretty serious!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62482141.amp

If China decided to stop making and selling electronic components to the West we'd be in very deep do-do very quickly!

The issue is, that bleeding edge fabs are a) hugely expensive (I.e. $10B upwards,) and b) take a significant time to be up and running (I.e. years), so while I applaud the initiative, it’s not an overnight fix.

I do think however that with the levels of automation in modern high tech manufacturing, and the closing wage gap with the Far East the only real impediment to far more local manufacturing, is really real estate and construction costs. When you have a dozen skilled engineers looking after a thousand automated lines in a building the size of 10 football fields*, it really doesn’t matter if it’s in Shenzhen, Skegness, San Diego, or St Tropez.

*I’ve visited a Factory of a very large consumer electronics company and it was exactly like that.
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Re: What’s up with Focusrite supply?

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I suspect that finding even a dozen skilled engineers in Skegness might be a challenge.
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Re: What’s up with Focusrite supply?

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:bouncy: Harsh!
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Maybe not too difficult.......

https://adamsengineeringltd.co.uk/
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If you build it they will come, or words to that effect.
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Sam Inglis wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:52 pm I suspect that finding even a dozen skilled engineers in Skegness might be a challenge.

And obviously all the ones in St Trooez will be at the beach.
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MarkOne wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:00 pm
Sam Inglis wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:52 pm I suspect that finding even a dozen skilled engineers in Skegness might be a challenge.

And obviously all the ones in St Trooez will be at the beach.

The beach at Skegness is actually very nice.

(Certainly nicer than the town! ;) )
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