Can someone please help with some DX Sys-Ex?

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Can someone please help with some DX Sys-Ex?

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I have two banks (of 32 patches each) of DX/TX 6-op sounds in Sys-Ex format (.syx), but no matter what I do I can't import them into Dexed or my K2700, both of which should speak DX. Dexed dissplays corrupted patch titles, and my K2700 just refuses to load them, saying they are not in the correct format.

I *think* (memory fails me) that these banks came from my old TX-802. Can anyone please offer to try to get these banks into a 6-op FM synth for me, see if they can be read, and maybe create new Sys-Ex files for me?
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Later tonight I can try them on a MODX and an SY77 if you mail them to me mate (I think you should have my address, PM me with a link to them if not).
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Thanks, mate. I'll drop you a PM.
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Is software any good? I could see if FM8 reads them. I also may be able to find my old copy of MIDI Quest.
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sonics wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:10 pm Is software any good? I could see if FM8 reads them. I also may be able to find my old copy of MIDI Quest.

Thanks. As long as I can get the sys-ex into a form I can use I don't mind what reads it! :lol:

My best guess is that my TX has created a difference to the older DX7 Sys-Ex. I need to get it into a vanilla DX7 format.

I'll drop you a PM also.
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Eddy Deegan wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:34 pm Later tonight I can try them on a MODX....


I think you need to do a conversion first for that on YAMAHAs web converter

"The Yamaha FM Converter allows you to use contents from the DX7, DX7II, TX802 and TX216/816 on your new Montage/Modx"

if the convertor works its probably an indication that the files have some semblance of sanity.
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Thanks for that suggestion. However:
(File) does not contain any convertable data

I don't get this. These files definitely once worked!
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In the meantime I've been looking at these files. They look very odd - clearly not standard DX sys-ex. Somehow I've managed to get these corrupted with something else.

So now I'm wondering if I can somehow get these out of FM8, where at some point I've successfully imported them, but FM8 has no export feature.
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I'm now convinced that the .syx files I have are not DX native format. There's some spurious data in there that has nothing to do with DX. Clearly I've managed to save the wrong files at some point in the past few decades.

So I do have these two banks in FM7 and FM8 format, but seemingly no way to get them back out into the real world!
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No luck here either I'm afraid :-(
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Yep, I'm pretty much resigned to having lost them at this point. A couple of the patches (which I was hoping to use) didn't convert cleanly, so I was hoping to go back to the hardware sys-ex and try Dexed, but alas not. :cry:

It's not so long ago I still had my TX-802, but I sold it along with the cartridges of my banks.

I do appreciate you trying for me.
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If you can see the data in a synth context you could "knife and fork" it with a manual transfer, but DX FMs arent strictly parameter compatible, eg the FM modulation intensities, so some tweaking might be required.

Patch transfer in the days of DX7.................

(do you have an apprentice that needs to do some detention ??)

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