Can someone please help with some DX Sys-Ex?

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Layering FM attacks from a DX with the body of the sound from a Prophet was regular practice for me a few decades ago. I made excellent, fairly realistic brass sounds that way.
Great bells and mallets, too. You couldn't get those fast attacks elsewhere without using a sampler.
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FM is all about snappy, twinkley, glassy, bell-ish tones. It does those fabulously. Not so hot for pads, strings and the like.

Cue other posts disagreeing with me in four... three... two... one...

I got the pads by putting DX7 string patches through a Dimension C footpedal, still necessary when I got the TX802 which in theory was eight DX7s which could all be separately micro detuned to each other.
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MOF wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:06 pm
FM is all about snappy, twinkley, glassy, bell-ish tones. It does those fabulously. Not so hot for pads, strings and the like.

Cue other posts disagreeing with me in four... three... two... one...

I got the pads by putting DX7 string patches through a Dimension C footpedal, still necessary when I got the TX802 which in theory was eight DX7s which could all be separately micro detuned to each other.

Me too! I still have my Dimension C chorus pedal, which I must dig out to try with the Nymphes.
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The original sine only FM carriers on the dx series synths and lack of filters did limit the sonic palette. You could not create the spectrum of a true sawtooth and so strings were always just out of reach. Also the lack of filters meant that timbre changes over the duration of a note had to be accomplished by modulation depth changes which led to a characteristic "boingy" timbre due to the way Bessel functions work. But fm synths like the fs1r had other waveforms and filters and their sonic palette is huge, certainly strings and pads were well within reach
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FM's also good for hard edged bass, wubs and wobbles.
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MOF wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:06 pm I got the pads by putting DX7 string patches through a Dimension C footpedal, still necessary when I got the TX802 which in theory was eight DX7s which could all be separately micro detuned to each other.

CE-1 and Dimension D here... :tongue: plus an occasional altercation with the Electric Mistress. :lol:
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We stuck ours through a distortion pedal...

You can get decent sustained pad sounds out of an original DX7, but it's hard work compared with how easy it is with even the most basic of analogue synths, so these days why even bother?
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sonics wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:34 pm
MOF wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:06 pm I got the pads by putting DX7 string patches through a Dimension C footpedal, still necessary when I got the TX802 which in theory was eight DX7s which could all be separately micro detuned to each other.

CE-1 and Dimension D here... :tongue: plus an occasional altercation with the Electric Mistress. :lol:

Yup, I have Dim D and a couple of CE-1s here still too. Love 'em all!

TBH the Line 6 Helix, and a few plug-ins, emulate any of these to my satisfaction, but some things you just don't feel you can part with. :?:crazy:
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The Elf wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:25 pm Yup, I have Dim D and a couple of CE-1s here still too. Love 'em all!

TBH the Line 6 Helix, and a few plug-ins, emulate any of these to my satisfaction, but some things you just don't feel you can part with. :?:crazy:

You're right. However, on my list of things to do are some A/B tests with some of my old gear. If software gets close enough, I'm selling it. I actually like the idea of that gear going to someone who really wants it, and will use it more than I do (hopefully). Just haven't got around to it yet...
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If software gets close enough, I'm selling it

I’ve replaced my Dimension C with UAD’s Dimension D, very good, as are the bulk of their plugins.
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The Elf wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:53 pm Just download Dexed and click on some presets - there's no need to understand it to use it.

FM is all about snappy, twinkley, glassy, bell-ish tones. It does those fabulously. Not so hot for pads, strings and the like.

What about the Korg OPSIX? I don’t generally get on too well with soft synths, in terms of playing with them to figure out sounds. Dexed looks pretty complex. And I like to understand how stuff works 🙂
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Re: Can someone please help with some DX Sys-Ex?

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bonefixer wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:40 pm
The Elf wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:53 pm Just download Dexed and click on some presets - there's no need to understand it to use it.

What about the Korg OPSIX? I don’t generally get on too well with soft synths, in terms of playing with them to figure out sounds. Dexed looks pretty complex. And I like to understand how stuff works 🙂

Then FM isn't for you. I doubt more than a dozen people ever knew how FM worked! :lol:

I've never even seen a OPSIX.
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