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AW4416 service / repair in 2023?

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Evening,

Was wondering if anyone knew of a place where I could take my ailing unit in for some TLC? I live in Peterborough but would travel if this can still be done. Thank you.

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Thank you Hugh. Will give them a shout.

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Dog wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:50 pm Thank you Hugh. Will give them a shout.

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If you do manage to find anyone to take it in for repair, I would ask them to renew the battery whilst the unit is on the bench and opened up. I had one of these, aw4416, and the battery is a pig to change, so, if you have someone competent, seize the moment!
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Evening OneWorld,

Thank you for the tip, I struck out with Yamaha, they said it was too old and won’t touch it. The other link on their site is for sonteq, they will be getting back to me. Alps still do a 60mm fader that is compatible, so not dead in the water yet. Mostly used as a mixer / front end to my interface these days. Still love it all these years later!

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Google pro audio repair, I had a music shop look at mine who did PA repairs.
The battery is soldered to the main board which is difficult to get to, it needs to be replaced, if you've not got the low battery warning light you will soon. There's a useful group on facebook for AW4416, lots of info there.
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Dog wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:18 pm Evening OneWorld,

Thank you for the tip, I struck out with Yamaha, they said it was too old and won’t touch it. The other link on their site is for sonteq, they will be getting back to me. Alps still do a 60mm fader that is compatible, so not dead in the water yet. Mostly used as a mixer / front end to my interface these days. Still love it all these years later!

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I had to sell mine, it was getting to the stage where this and that seemed on the brink of expiring, but it wasn't just that, it was the issue of not being able to find a repair facility.

I sort of get the feeling that because Yamaha have produced such excellent HDD recorders in the past, and some great mixers - both for the home studio/semi-pro community, that they must surely have some product ready to be released.

Can you imagine an 02R96+Recorder, or an aw2400 with 24+Master faders, USB interface built in, and able to work as a control surface, that would be all my birthdays come at once
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OneWorld wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:25 am Can you imagine an 02R96+Recorder, or an aw2400 with 24+Master faders, USB interface built in, and able to work as a control surface, that would be all my birthdays come at once

I think you're describing gear that is already available there...or does it have to be by Yamaha? :)
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sonics wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:51 pm
OneWorld wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:25 am Can you imagine an 02R96+Recorder, or an aw2400 with 24+Master faders, USB interface built in, and able to work as a control surface, that would be all my birthdays come at once

I think you're describing gear that is already available there...or does it have to be by Yamaha? :)

Available where? Though yes, I do have a fixation with Yamaha, good quality, and there kit slots into Cubase so well, as one would expect
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OneWorld wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:20 pm Available where? Though yes, I do have a fixation with Yamaha, good quality, and there kit slots into Cubase so well, as one would expect

There are lots of examples of digital mixers with recording facilities and faders able to work as a control surface. Try this PreSonus StudioLive 32S for example.
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sonics wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:49 pm
OneWorld wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:20 pm Available where? Though yes, I do have a fixation with Yamaha, good quality, and there kit slots into Cubase so well, as one would expect

There are lots of examples of digital mixers with recording facilities and faders able to work as a control surface. Try this PreSonus StudioLive 32S for example.

Yes I had been considering one of thois, well except it was the 16S which apparently although 16 faders, has layers and a 32 i/o USB interface and I missed one of these by a whisker, a shop demo one at a ridiculously cheap price, by the time I thought "yep, go for it" it had been sold.

One thing that caused me to procrastinate was that I had read that if used as a controller for Cubase, the track selection did not faithfully 'follow' the track selection in Cubase, as it would do in Studio One.

Also I was not clear about the multi-track recording. I am lead to believe that multi-track recording with a digital mixer isn't quite the same as it is in a HDD recorder (ala aw2400) you can record a stereo mixdown, and that's great. However, say you have 8 tracks recorded, in the DAW and you record them to the mixer, and say the recorder in the mixer can record 32 tracks (way more than I need)

The mixer will not record 8 tracks but will record 32 tracks - 24 of them being 'empty' Nor could you record the 8 tracks then choose to record a ninth track directly to the mixer.

That being said, I think the Behringer Wing (and may be with an add on card the X32) can record and playback in a random manner, just as a HDD recorder would.

I first came across this restriction when I was on the cusp of buying the RME UFX then I came across documentation where RME made it apparent, even though you can record a maximum of 32 tracks (or whatever 64?) you can only record those tracks at one pass, and that one pass can be an arbitrary number up to an including 32

I have researched many, the Tascam Model 24 almost did it for me, but no flying faders and it started to give trouble so I sent it back
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OneWorld wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:05 am
sonics wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:49 pm
OneWorld wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:20 pm Available where? Though yes, I do have a fixation with Yamaha, good quality, and there kit slots into Cubase so well, as one would expect

There are lots of examples of digital mixers with recording facilities and faders able to work as a control surface. Try this PreSonus StudioLive 32S for example.

Yes I had been considering one of this, well except it was the 16S which apparently although 16 faders, has 2 layers and a 32 i/o USB interface. I missed one of these by a whisker, a shop demo one at a ridiculously cheap price, by the time I thought "yep, go for it" it had been sold.

One thing that caused me to procrastinate was that I had read that if used as a controller for Cubase, the track selection did not faithfully 'follow' the track selection in Cubase, as it would do in Studio One. I think I also read this would be addressed in an update and the issue was not Cubase but the fact that Cubase used the Mackie Protocol which means backing every 8 tracks as opposed to being able to jump from track 1 to track 27 (for example) without having to press a bank button

Also I was not clear about the multi-track recording. I am lead to believe that multi-track recording with a digital mixer isn't quite the same as it is in a HDD recorder (ala aw2400) you can record a stereo mixdown, and that's great. However, say you have 8 tracks recorded, in the DAW and you record them to the mixer, and say the recorder in the mixer can record 32 tracks (way more than I need)

The mixer will not record 8 tracks but will record 32 tracks - 24 of them being 'empty' Nor could you record the 8 tracks then choose to record a ninth track directly to the mixer - your allocation of 32 tracks would have been used

That being said, I think the Behringer Wing (and may be with an add on card the X32) can record and playback in a random manner, just as a HDD recorder would.

I first came across this restriction when I was on the cusp of buying the RME UFX then I came across documentation where RME made it apparent, even though you can record a maximum of 32 tracks (or whatever 64?) you can only record those tracks at one pass, and that one pass can be an arbitrary number up to an including 32

I have researched many, the Tascam Model 24 almost did it for me, but no flying faders and it started to give trouble so I sent it back

All things considered, I think I am expecting a lot from a mixer ?

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