Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Wonks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:24 am As has been said, CD players are prone to vibration issues. You can live with the occasional glitch if just for interval music, but not during performance if it’s a backing track.

Which is why if you must go CD, I’d suggest a portable ‘Discman’ style one (normally round). These at least would be designed to cope with a certain level of vibration on the move and have a much larger internal read-ahead data buffer than a domestic hi-fi CD player so that they can play back from the buffer whilst the device tries to re-read any disc data lost due to the player being shaken.

But as has been said, a phone or tablet is a much better playback device for playing backing tracks and that’s what I’d use.

Yep I have one of those. And it plays faithfully everytime I use it, and it's at least 20 years old
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Thank you for all replies.

I think I am going to look at an mp3/lossless audio player something like this, however they only seem to have a usb c socket. Can someone suggest something that might work with something like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09 ... R097K&th=1

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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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That has a headphone socket (as I'm sure nearly all do even in our wireless world) which, while it's not the perfect solution, will work fine as an output to the PA desk. You could buy one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/VENTION-Auxili ... B085DYRDXZ but I doubt you'll see any quality improvement over using the headphone output.

BTW do you have an old iPhone/'droid? With a suitable playout app that would be better than a cheap .mp3 player.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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You’d use the 3.5mm headphone output to connect to the mixer.

Either a 3.5mm TRS to 2xRCA cable if you use the RCA inputs on the mixer, or 3.5mm TRS to two 1/4” TS jack plug cable if you want to use a stereo channel.

I’ve used both in the past, though I normally prefer the stereo channel approach as you normally have tone controls available and with the RCA inputs you tend not to.

Being a headphone output, it is possible to overload and distort the mixer inputs at full output volume on some players, so play with the output level (and any input gain control you may have) for best results.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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One of best little media players would be an older LG phone in the "V" series. The V20/30/40 etc. They have a great-sounding DAC. I'd suggest using UAPP or PowerAmp for playback.

An iPhone with the official Apple DAC (headphone) cable is another great option.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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An older iPhone with a headphone socket (iPhone 6S or earlier) would also work well, still capable of running the latest iOS and apps and pretty user friendly.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Sam Spoons wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:41 pm An older iPhone with a headphone socket (iPhone 6S or earlier) would also work well, still capable of running the latest iOS and apps and pretty user friendly.

You’ll need something like an iPhone 8 or newer to run the latest iOS 16 (v16.3 at time of writing), though a 6 or 7 will run iOS 15.

But a phone of that age will probably need a replacement battery, and the controls get increasingly dodgy. Before it died completely, my 6S battery lasted only a few hours at most if being used, and then the side on/off/lock button stopped working.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Wonks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:52 pm
Sam Spoons wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:41 pm An older iPhone with a headphone socket (iPhone 6S or earlier) would also work well, still capable of running the latest iOS and apps and pretty user friendly.

You’ll need something like an iPhone 8 or newer to run the latest iOS 16 (v16.3 at time of writing), though a 6 or 7 will run iOS 15.

But a phone of that age will probably need a replacement battery, and the controls get increasingly dodgy. Before it died completely, my 6S battery lasted only a few hours at most if being used, and then the side on/off/lock button stopped working.


Wonks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:52 pm
Sam Spoons wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:41 pm An older iPhone with a headphone socket (iPhone 6S or earlier) would also work well, still capable of running the latest iOS and apps and pretty user friendly.

You’ll need something like an iPhone 8 or newer to run the latest iOS 16 (v16.3 at time of writing), though a 6 or 7 will run iOS 15.

But a phone of that age will probably need a replacement battery, and the controls get increasingly dodgy. Before it died completely, my 6S battery lasted only a few hours at most if being used, and then the side on/off/lock button stopped working.

I've had that experience too. It is difficult to know exactly what the OP wants to spend. There are lots of options, depending on budget. In fact old CD players are so cheap that 2 of them could be purchased, with one as a spare, or even buy an old laptop, they have CD/DVD players.

What I do know is that I got a relatively decent phone to play back files but for some reason it started playing silly bug*ers (no that's not a tune, AFAIK) and as far as I could tell it was cheaper to buy a replacement phone than get the existing one replaced. And with today's tendency to use parts, even the battery, that can't be replaced so easily, well suffice it to say, that despite one poster's advice that anything with mechanical moving parts should be avoided, well The Flying Scotsman is still going, but there again the parts have been changed/replaced - you can't do that with an iPhone and ironically enough, my old CD player has outlived 2 smartphones!
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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The LG V20 phone is one of my favourites. It has a removable battery, and will also connect to my external DAC for lossless playback of files and Tidal. It sounds noticeably better than my iPhone 6 using the headphone socket. They cost from about £50 used. Still available new, as well.

You could also use a tablet if you wanted a bigger control surface, of course, although I see that phones are getting huge again! That latest iPhone is ridiculously chunky IMO. :)
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Post by ef37a »

Have not followed the whole thread but if CD players are now rare/expensive look for a DVD player. They will play CDs but you can also store a shedload of MP3 on one.

No idea how bump-proof they are but if it were I, I would in any case use a Minidisc recorder. Mainly because I have two and lots of discs.

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ef37a wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:37 pm Have not followed the whole thread but if CD players are now rare/expensive look for a DVD player. They will play CDs but you can also store a shedload of MP3 on one.

Just be careful to check the outputs as some only have an HDMI out.
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Re: Cheap CD player to hook up to Yamaha MG16X 16-Channel Mixer and how?

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Wonks wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:57 pm You’d use the 3.5mm headphone output to connect to the mixer.

Either a 3.5mm TRS to 2xRCA cable if you use the RCA inputs on the mixer, or 3.5mm TRS to two 1/4” TS jack plug cable if you want to use a stereo channel.

I’ve used both in the past, though I normally prefer the stereo channel approach as you normally have tone controls available and with the RCA inputs you tend not to.

Being a headphone output, it is possible to overload and distort the mixer inputs at full output volume on some players, so play with the output level (and any input gain control you may have) for best results.

Hi thank you for your reply, where do I plug the 1/4” TS Jack plug cable in on the mixer?
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