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Arpangel wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-z4d0VAXmw
And I can’t play properly at all, until I’ve got a Zawinul hat.
awjoe wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:09 pm
I'm reporting my own take on things only, so grain of salt, etc. To my ears, there's a lot of jazz that's samey - it's pleasant enough to listen to, but it sounds like a lot of other jazz. (This is true of any genre - mainstream pop, hiphop, classical, bluegrass - the majority of work in any genre sounds a lot like all the other stuff in that genre.) Now, some listeners just like a genre, and if it's being played well, they're happy with it. But what makes my eyes moist is when an artist escapes the collective wisdom (genre standards) and says something beautiful and/or powerful and/or moving which is individual and different. YMMV
BWC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:30 am My favorite definition (given earlier in this thread) is that jazz = musical freedom. If that's so, then trying to define it by common characteristics is totally missing the point, all fine and well for cataloging purposes, but not very inspirational. Subverting expectations is also great fun for a jazz player, so maybe that's a good reason for trying to define it, just to create the opportunity to disprove the definition.
GilesAnt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:15 am You can have music which is just as poignant and expressive without it being jazz. Jazz doesn't have a monopoly on this - think Dido's Lament, or The War Requiem just for starters.
So again, talking about freedom/emancipation doesn't really help to define what jazz actually is. Any musical style or genre will have features that can be identified in musical terms, even if that isn't always easy.
tea for two wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:35 am It is personal hence me saying our personal emancipation : we can get this from any music from any style including Jazz.
merlyn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:29 pm
Another vote for "just feel it, man". I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but once you say "just feel it, man" you're done with this topic. For example someone could say "there are a lot of ii V Is" to which the answer is "just feel it, man" or "there is extended and altered harmony" to which the answer, again, is "just feel it, man", if you see what I mean.