What is Jazz

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Mention of Indian Classical alongside Jazz reminded me of Trilok Gurtu.
After Evelyn Glennie my favourite percussionist,
Trilok is probably my 2nd favourite percussionist.
Trilok usually most of the time sat on the floor.

Here is Joe Zawinul with Trilok in 1994
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VQWKbUC57_8
24min50sec Tablas intertwining with Joe's chanting and Keyboards.

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Also I just remembered Bheki Mseleku South African Pianist Guitarist Saxophonist, composer arranger.
Bheki's Jazz was partially shaped by apartheid alongside his spirituality.
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&s ... the+stars+

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Tony Scott Jazz Clarinetist.
His album
Music for Zen Meditation in 1964 combined Clarinet with Koto played by Shinichi Yuize and Shakuhachi played by Hōzan Yamamoto.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pvyvihNiFfg
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Alice Coltrane : Harp.
Pharoah Sanders : Saxophone.

Journey in Satchidananda (Hindu Saint Swami Satchidananda)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TQtEFdyhgdE#searching

Shiva-Loka
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EPzozPT5V0o

Isis and Osiris at Village Gate 1970
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHrCAIE7XM
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Instruments define genre, if you want to invent a new sound, or genre, just change the arrangement.
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Arpangel wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:39 am Instruments define genre, if you want to invent a new sound, or genre, just change the arrangement.

It takes a lot more than that to invent a new genre. Rearranging a Beethoven symphony for a piano duet is hardly creating a new genre.
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In any case jazz pretty much existing instruments
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Post by BWC »

...jazz = musical freedom...

RichardT wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:25 am I don't agree with this at all! All genres offer freedom in their own way...


GilesAnt wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:52 am
Arpangel wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:41 am And, as soon as you introduce rhythm into music, it’s not free.

And since rhythm (swing, syncopation etc) is such a key characteristic of jazz you have confirmed my view.

I didn't say absolute freedom. I said, "musical freedom", as in freedom within a musical context. I also didn't say that jazz had a monopoly on musical freedom, but I do think it's more free (or at least feels more free), and more about freedom.
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GilesAnt wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:14 am
Arpangel wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:39 am Instruments define genre, if you want to invent a new sound, or genre, just change the arrangement.

It takes a lot more than that to invent a new genre. Rearranging a Beethoven symphony for a piano duet is hardly creating a new genre.

Adding more reverb, or a "wicked" bass drum can go a long way.

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Rick Beato 19hours earlier posted his conversation with Keith Jarrett.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xgL30jDhoQU
To me the part of Keith's playing on his records and concerts that makes me appreciative is Keith including styles as Bach, Calypso, Country, Gospel, Latin.
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