Waves go subscription only!

[Matt Houghton]

Can anyone suggest a good alternative to Vocal Rider and Bass Rider? (Yes, I could manually automate, but it's not always convenient.)

Some options to check out:

TB Pro GainRider
Hornet Autogain
Melda MAutoVolume

And not quite the same thing but can be useful in a similar sort of way: Wavesfactory Trackspacer

[Stuart79]

Some options to check out:

TB Pro GainRider
Hornet Autogain
Melda MAutoVolume

And not quite the same thing but can be useful in a similar sort of way: Wavesfactory Trackspacer

Thanks for these. I'll have a look.

[dbfs]

I genuinely think they are finished now and I am glad to see them go to be honest.

No right minded person is going to continue down their path. The number of people that I know that abandoned Adobe over the subscription thing is staggering.

We get Adobe free at work and and we cannot give it away as people can't be bothered. They have moved on to other things like the Affinity range and Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve.

Poor waves. They really have done it to themselves this time. Lovely.

[ITHertz]

Hi All,

I never really entered the Waves ecosystem and only have about 10 of their plug-ins of which, only a few don't have clear alternatives (e.g. RVox, C6).

Don't think I'll be subscribing to a huge bundle of plug-ins for the couple that I actually use. And as I'm concerned with backwards compatibility I've decided to remove all the Waves plug-ins I have so that I don't get caught later on.

Anyway, that's my 2c!

Cheers!

[dbfs]

Removing them is a really good idea. In Reaper you can set it to not show waves plugins in the preferences. That way they are still there if you need to show them again temporarily for a legacy project but with a simple setting you can hide them on new projects to avoid using them in the future.

[jaminem]

Inevitable really. I got off the Waves train mostly a long time ago. Except Maxx Bass, I just didn’t use them.
I get the subscription thing as a business model for them but I just don’t want or need hundreds of plugins. Too much choice slows me down. Always find it amusing when YouTubers are demoing technique seem to scroll through hundreds of the things yet always end up picking the same ones. That tells you all you need to know really.

I am looking at Universal Audio with interest tho, as I’m hugely invested in their platform- have been since the original ‘Mackie’ cards. They seem to be struggling- offering Spark which apparently no one bought, and then having to release perpetual native licensing both singly and in bundles seemingly to try and get some revenue in to port the rest of thier plugins over to native…

I may have just made all that up…but it’s odd that we got the first native plugins over a year ago and nothing since…

It must be a huge cost for them to port and then keep updating for compatibility - especially with such a large library

[Kwackman]

Is there a reason this is posted in the "Windows Music" forum rather than "Mixing, Mastering & Post Production"?

[Wonks]

Is there a reason this is posted in the "Windows Music" forum rather than "Mixing, Mastering & Post Production"?

Non-platform specific threads get posted in the platform specific forums all the time. Likewise, platform specific threads often get posted in the general forum threads.

But somehow life goes on.

[IAA]

But somehow life goes on.

Well I did use Roland Cloud for a while but only really a couple of plugins so defeated the point. I stopped a while ago. I guess for commercial studios it makes more sense.

[The Elf]

We have a whole generation who have become de-sensitised to subscriptions.

I have family who think it perfectly normal to be paying over 100 quid monthly on a collection of TV subscriptions, yet will happily tell me how they've not watched anything on <insert entertainment service provider here> for months.

It's a great scam, and it seems that most of the world has fallen for it.

[Sam Inglis]

Can anyone suggest a good alternative to Vocal Rider and Bass Rider? (Yes, I could manually automate, but it's not always convenient.)

Quiet Art's Wave Rider was the original implementation of this idea IIRC and is still around.

[Hugh Robjohns]

Is there a reason this is posted in the "Windows Music" forum rather than "Mixing, Mastering & Post Production"?

No idea why the OP posted it in Windows Music when it's a cross platform product, but the reason it has remained there was because none of the moderators noticed.... sorry! I shall move it forthwith.