Nearfields Monitors: Kali vs Adam vs Focal

[tea for two]

I like mixing early in the morning. I find after giving my ears a chance to rest from the previous day's noise, my judgement is better in the early morning.
Also there's far less surrounding outside noise so that helps me as well.
I couldn't mix on monitors, speakers, in the mornings as I live in a flat.
Headphones it is.
Premium Sound in Kensington, London, they let me audition over 2hours nearly a dozen headphones all the way up to £3K. Auditioning is downstairs so there's some privacy. Really accomodating staff. They just left me to it.

I know hearing the sound from monitors speakers is preferred by many. However, if there are other things to consider as neighbours, unsociable hours we like to mix, then we don't have much of a choice except to go headphones. More so if we don't have a separate acoustically treated studio room, only lounge/bedroom/kitchen to mix in.
Whereupon it's well worth taking a train journey to audition headphones to choose the ones suitable for the music we make mix especially if we are going to drop £1K+ on cans.

[ef37a]

Can I inject a question and perhaps a note of caution here Tea for Two?

You say you do not use speakers because of a possible upset to neighbours? Well, unsocial hours apart, maybe you are running them at too high a level and the cans as well?
I am sat here listening to a Beethoven piano trio some two mtrs from my Tannoy 5As and find the volume level perfectly 'natural' and on a meter that is indicating 65 to 70 dBC average with the finale peak at 78dBC. Tom McKinney is in fact louder on average than the music! I find that level for music quite satisfactory and I am registered deaf!
I switched to R1 (the sacrifices I make for this forum!) and cranked the volume to an average of 85dBC. Too loud for me and could be a nuisance at 1am!

Hugh has 'done' monitor calibration at least a couple of times this decade? The usual level suggested for monitors is 83dBC but Hugh has always stated I understand that the low 80s is often too loud for a 'domestic' situation and 10dB lower is more acceptable. By just my personal preference and luck that is where I seem to be!

So I am saying Tea, you should not be annoying folk, at least not at civilized times and you 'might' be running cans at damaging levels?

Dave.

[tea for two]

Can I inject a question and perhaps a note of caution here Tea for Two?
I am saying Tea, you should not be annoying folk, at least not at civilized times and you 'might' be running cans at damaging levels?

Appreciated E.

I started mixing just after 7am lol.
It's cause I'm currently working on an EDM album with some heavy beatz low Bass. It's the only EDM album I've made.
Most of my other stuff I can mix at low volume which I tend to do.
My ears are slightly damaged over years of abuse, more so my left ear. Even though I can hear 20Hz I have to increase to +3dB on a Sine Wave Test Tone in Logic Oscillator to properly hear 20Hz.

[ef37a]

Can I inject a question and perhaps a note of caution here Tea for Two?
I am saying Tea, you should not be annoying folk, at least not at civilized times and you 'might' be running cans at damaging levels?

Appreciated E.

I started mixing just after 7am lol.
It's cause I'm currently working on an EDM album with some heavy beatz low Bass. It's the only EDM album I've made.
Most of my other stuff I can mix at low volume which I tend to do.
My ears are slightly damaged over years of abuse, more so my left ear. Even though I can hear 20Hz I have to increase to +3dB on a Sine Wave Test Tone in Logic Oscillator to properly hear 20Hz.

WHY on earth are you struggling to hear 20Hz Tea?!! There is nothing remotely musical going on down there and only the very biggest speakers in a huge room could reproduce it.

Dave.

[Hugh Robjohns]

T42 is currently immersed in an EDM-fest which involves a deep rumbly bass. It's intended for playback on big club and festival PAs which can generate 20Hz.

Although while we can, technically, hear 20Hz, in practice we feel it which obviously isn't something that can be done over headphones.

[tea for two]

I have lost meself to EDM for my sins

[muzines]

Anyone mixing bangin' beats at 7am* gets my sympathy**..!

* (after getting up, not staying out all night)

** As do their neighbours...

[ore_terra]

After reading this post and others I was nearly decided to get a pair of the new kh120, but this add came up with a “VAT-less day” in a local store… and I just pulled the trigger for a pair of A7V’s for 1050€

[Arpangel]

Anyone mixing bangin' beats at 7am* gets my sympathy**..!

* (after getting up, not staying out all night)

** As do their neighbours...

Sounds dope Bro.

[tea for two]

What could possibly be handy is if there was a software where we could draw our room including windows doors ceiling floor, with measurements angles, alongside what the room is constructed of.
Have it with and without Virtual acoustic treatment.
Thereafter have various Virtual Monitors virtually placed in different parts of our virtual room to hear them.

Similar in principle in a way to drum software where we can change the drums size, skin, mic positioning, types or mics.
Similar in principle in a way to amp cab modelling simulating software.
Similar in principle in a way to software that attempts to emulate simulate sound of different studios.

[Arpangel]

What could possibly be handy is if there was a software where we could draw our room including windows doors ceiling floor, with measurements angles, alongside what the room is constructed of.
Have it with and without Virtual acoustic treatment.
Thereafter have various Virtual Monitors virtually placed in different parts of our virtual room to hear them.

Similar in principle in a way to drum software where we can change the drums size, skin, mic positioning, types or mics.
Similar in principle in a way to amp cab modelling simulating software.
Similar in principle in a way to software that attempts to emulate simulate sound of different studios.

A friend went round a few top London studios and made recordings in the control room of each one using a binaural head with two B&K 4006 mic's in it.
That was an "interesting" "experiment" ?
He also recorded my hi-fi in my living room, a pair of Celestion Dutton 15 speakers, surprisingly, my recording sounded better, than some of the studios, maybe better isn’t a good word, but let’s say it held up well.
Not sure about virtual room software? could be a whole can of worms there.

[ore_terra]

What could possibly be handy is if there was a software where we could draw our room including windows doors ceiling floor, with measurements angles, alongside what the room is constructed of.
Have it with and without Virtual acoustic treatment.
Thereafter have various Virtual Monitors virtually placed in different parts of our virtual room to hear them.

Similar in principle in a way to drum software where we can change the drums size, skin, mic positioning, types or mics.
Similar in principle in a way to amp cab modelling simulating software.
Similar in principle in a way to software that attempts to emulate simulate sound of different studios.

Well, in theory you can. In the end it’s “just” wave physics.

The only tiny little problem is the huge amount of variables you have. Materials, thicknesses, surface finishes, geometry, openings…

But the same way structural design softwares exist (thinking of similar multi-variable scenarios based in physics and statistical calculations), I dont see why this software could not exist.