Emotional music composition

[Arpangel]

Music is like any other trade, like a bricklayer for instance, if you're any good, they'll call you, if you're not so good, you call them.

A friend of mine for instance is never short of work, why? he's a good brickie, he gets so many offers of work he's turning more work away than work he accepts, he's like the Taylor Swift of brick-laying. Another pal of mine, another brickie, scrats about doing bits and bobs, he thinks and opines a lot, but that's about as far as he gets

Building a wall? It’s either straight and level, or it’s wrong.
Making music, well?

Same difference, only 2 kinds of music - good, and krap.

Are you inferring a builder only builds walls? That's like saying musicians can only play a 3 chord trick. They build houses too, and when a house becomes a home, it can have an emotional currency too

We are now defining the role of a builder, a master builder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfTKNp_yUI

[Drew Stephenson]

"When I was a King and a Mason - a Master proven and skilled
I cleared me ground for a Palace such as a King should build.
I decreed and dug down to my levels. Presently under the silt
I came on the wreck of a Palace such as a King had built. "

[OneWorld]

Music is like any other trade, like a bricklayer for instance, if you're any good, they'll call you, if you're not so good, you call them.

A friend of mine for instance is never short of work, why? he's a good brickie, he gets so many offers of work he's turning more work away than work he accepts, he's like the Taylor Swift of brick-laying. Another pal of mine, another brickie, scrats about doing bits and bobs, he thinks and opines a lot, but that's about as far as he gets

Building a wall? It’s either straight and level, or it’s wrong.
Making music, well?

Same difference, only 2 kinds of music - good, and krap.

Are you inferring a builder only builds walls? That's like saying musicians can only play a 3 chord trick. They build houses too, and when a house becomes a home, it can have an emotional currency too

We are now defining the role of a builder, a master builder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfTKNp_yUI

You might be, I'm not. Your statement requires some clarification - can you define the roles please? For clarification purposes, I am using an analogy (builders v composers) to illustrate a point, not establishing definitions.

[OneWorld]

"When I was a King and a Mason - a Master proven and skilled
I cleared me ground for a Palace such as a King should build.
I decreed and dug down to my levels. Presently under the silt
I came on the wreck of a Palace such as a King had built. "

It must have been a Barrat home then

[Arpangel]

Music is like any other trade, like a bricklayer for instance, if you're any good, they'll call you, if you're not so good, you call them.

A friend of mine for instance is never short of work, why? he's a good brickie, he gets so many offers of work he's turning more work away than work he accepts, he's like the Taylor Swift of brick-laying. Another pal of mine, another brickie, scrats about doing bits and bobs, he thinks and opines a lot, but that's about as far as he gets

Building a wall? It’s either straight and level, or it’s wrong.
Making music, well?

Same difference, only 2 kinds of music - good, and krap.

Are you inferring a builder only builds walls? That's like saying musicians can only play a 3 chord trick. They build houses too, and when a house becomes a home, it can have an emotional currency too

We are now defining the role of a builder, a master builder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfTKNp_yUI

You might be, I'm not. Your statement requires some clarification - can you define the roles please? For clarification purposes, I am using an analogy (builders v composers) to illustrate a point, not establishing definitions.

That’s exactly it, the role of a musician cannot easily be defined, compared to a builder, and using this as an analogy doesn’t really work.

[amanise]

I think I've entered some kind of emotional civil engineering twilight zone....

[OneWorld]

Building a wall? It’s either straight and level, or it’s wrong.
Making music, well?

Same difference, only 2 kinds of music - good, and krap.

Are you inferring a builder only builds walls? That's like saying musicians can only play a 3 chord trick. They build houses too, and when a house becomes a home, it can have an emotional currency too

We are now defining the role of a builder, a master builder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfTKNp_yUI

You might be, I'm not. Your statement requires some clarification - can you define the roles please? For clarification purposes, I am using an analogy (builders v composers) to illustrate a point, not establishing definitions.

That’s exactly it, the role of a musician cannot easily be defined, compared to a builder, and using this as an analogy doesn’t really work.

Au contrar, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The role of the music is to create and/perform music, the role of a builder is to create a home, the performance part is living in it - simples. I can imagine there's many a builder who once they have finished a home, done the final mix (of cement of course) they stand back and feel justifiably proud and emotional, and why not, that home could bring happiness, joy, good times and bad, over the years, even 100's of years, as indeed a piece of music can.

Emotion is emotion, it's a moving feast though, some might emote about this, some might emote about that, but at the end of the day, it's still emotion. I don't understand why musicians seem to have this idea that they have the monopoly on it, or why we become so precious about it.

Writing a piece of music trancends many emotions, or none, the inspiration might be happy song, sad song, make some money to put food on the table song, a song where to write or play might be a technical challenge, an instructional tune (eg Bach's 48 Preludes and Fugues) or a combination.

When it comes down to it, who are we to judge on another person's skill, expertise, dedication, pride in what they do. Have I ever seen a bricklayer cry when he/she builds a wonky wall? No, but have I ever seen a bagpipe player cry when he/she blows it, and plays a bum, note.

[OneWorld]

I think I've entered some kind of emotional civil engineering twilight zone....

"If you build it, people will come"

[Arpangel]

Same difference, only 2 kinds of music - good, and krap.

Are you inferring a builder only builds walls? That's like saying musicians can only play a 3 chord trick. They build houses too, and when a house becomes a home, it can have an emotional currency too

We are now defining the role of a builder, a master builder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfTKNp_yUI

You might be, I'm not. Your statement requires some clarification - can you define the roles please? For clarification purposes, I am using an analogy (builders v composers) to illustrate a point, not establishing definitions.

That’s exactly it, the role of a musician cannot easily be defined, compared to a builder, and using this as an analogy doesn’t really work.

Au contrar, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The role of the music is to create and/perform music, the role of a builder is to create a home, the performance part is living in it - simples. I can imagine there's many a builder who once they have finished a home, done the final mix (of cement of course) they stand back and feel justifiably proud and emotional, and why not, that home could bring happiness, joy, good times and bad, over the years, even 100's of years, as indeed a piece of music can.

Emotion is emotion, it's a moving feast though, some might emote about this, some might emote about that, but at the end of the day, it's still emotion. I don't understand why musicians seem to have this idea that they have the monopoly on it, or why we become so precious about it.

Writing a piece of music trancends many emotions, or none, the inspiration might be happy song, sad song, make some money to put food on the table song, a song where to write or play might be a technical challenge, an instructional tune (eg Bach's 48 Preludes and Fugues) or a combination.

When it comes down to it, who are we to judge on another person's skill, expertise, dedication, pride in what they do. Have I ever seen a bricklayer cry when he/she builds a wonky wall? No, but have I ever seen a bagpipe player cry when he/she blows it, and plays a bum, note.

Let’s just talk about the good stuff, the rest can go and theorise and play bagpipes, or whatever.
Bagpipes can be good though, but only in a very limited context, like funerals.

[OneWorld]

Well to whomsoever the bagpipes are being played in memory of, at a funeral, it won’t matter if they are played with emotion or not

[Arpangel]

Well to whomsoever the bagpipes are being played in memory of, at a funeral, it won’t matter if they are played with emotion or not

Did I really say "funerals" my god, I must be a little bit "disconnected"

[amanise]

Well to whomsoever the bagpipes are being played in memory of, at a funeral, it won’t matter if they are played with emotion or not

Did I really say "funerals" my god, I must be a little bit "disconnected"

Indeed! Don't you remember the epic work "Its a Long Way To The Top (if you wanna rock n roll)" by (crosses chest) AC/DC?? Who can forget the stirring bagpipe solo by (crosses chest) Bon Scott??