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Arpangel wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:53 am ...
We often talk about the "music business" I’m not in that, but if you are, it’s a nightmare, I know people who have been, and it’s run by gangsters basically, they’ll rip you off at every turn unless you’ve got eyes in the back of your head and a good lawyer.

Yes, agreed with all that - and following the advent of the CD -> ripping -> Internet -> streaming pathway everyone expects music to be a free commodity anyway. I've had a couple of opportunities along the way, to be part of the 'music business' you refer to. On reflection I'm glad they didn't work out because it's always been a passion for me - and it's rarely good when you try and convert a passion into a business. There few more effective passion killers than the injection of money into the equation. I was just ranting - you know me.
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Re: Emotional music composition

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Here's a list of 271 emotions.
It's pretty understandable that we myself included can't quite pin down emotion/s we are feeling, emotion/s we are conveying or not in our compositions.
We are, our compositions are far more varied than just "sad happy."
So a list of emotions as this can be useful.
https://www.berkeleywellbeing.com/list-of-emotions.html
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Music is like any other trade, like a bricklayer for instance, if you're any good, they'll call you, if you're not so good, you call them.

A friend of mine for instance is never short of work, why? he's a good brickie, he gets so many offers of work he's turning more work away than work he accepts, he's like the Taylor Swift of brick-laying. Another pal of mine, another brickie, scrats about doing bits and bobs, he thinks and opines a lot, but that's about as far as he gets
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Re: Emotional music composition

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tea for two wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:40 am Here's a list of 271 emotions.
It's pretty understandable that we myself included can't quite pin down emotion/s we are feeling, emotion/s we are conveying or not in our compositions.
We are, our compositions are far more varied than just "sad happy."
So a list of emotions as this can be useful.
https://www.berkeleywellbeing.com/list-of-emotions.html

I bet someone will try and trigger them all now....
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Re: Emotional music composition

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tea for two wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:40 am Here's a list of 271 emotions.
It's pretty understandable that we myself included can't quite pin down emotion/s we are feeling, emotion/s we are conveying or not in our compositions.
We are, our compositions are far more varied than just "sad happy."
So a list of emotions as this can be useful.
https://www.berkeleywellbeing.com/list-of-emotions.html


I notice it's a .dot.com whatever emotions are, there's money in them thar emotions, and from what I see from the 'emotions industry' there's a good living to be made out of it, probably far more than you get from singing about them

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Re: Emotional music composition

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OneWorld wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:21 pm Music is like any other trade, like a bricklayer for instance, if you're any good, they'll call you, if you're not so good, you call them.

A friend of mine for instance is never short of work, why? he's a good brickie, he gets so many offers of work he's turning more work away than work he accepts, he's like the Taylor Swift of brick-laying. Another pal of mine, another brickie, scrats about doing bits and bobs, he thinks and opines a lot, but that's about as far as he gets

I suspect it's more a matter of attitude than actual skill (assuming both can do at least a passably decent job). We've all come across the technically excellent musician/sound guy/WHY who is difficult to work with and in most cases the guy we'd phone would be the competent but easy to get along with guy.
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Sam Spoons wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:30 pm ...
I suspect it's more a matter of attitude than actual skill (assuming both can do at least a passably decent job). We've all come across the technically excellent musician/sound guy/WHY who is difficult to work with and in most cases the guy we'd phone would be the competent but easy to get along with guy.

Exactly that. After a 30 year career in medical IT I can safely say I have met a lot of very gifted technical people - and have had many working for me at different times. There are some, though, you just have to let go no matter how gifted they are. If nobody can work with them - or they habitually alienate people they provide a service to - there's not much you can do to help them.
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OneWorld wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:21 pm Music is like any other trade, like a bricklayer for instance, if you're any good, they'll call you, if you're not so good, you call them.

A friend of mine for instance is never short of work, why? he's a good brickie, he gets so many offers of work he's turning more work away than work he accepts, he's like the Taylor Swift of brick-laying. Another pal of mine, another brickie, scrats about doing bits and bobs, he thinks and opines a lot, but that's about as far as he gets

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Making music, well?
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Re: Emotional music composition

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Received this message from a stranger on Instagram today, "[it] has had quite an emotional impact this morning which I must try & process.
“Goodnight” in particular has broken something inside me, in a good way, though I’m not sure quite what yet. I’ll have a good cry, listen again & let it sit in my soul awhile."

I'm not going to say that this is what it's all about, but I can't think of any better reasons to be making music at the moment.

Give it another 10 years and I might find a third fan. ;)
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Drew Stephenson wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:53 pm Received this message from a stranger on Instagram today, "[it] has had quite an emotional impact this morning which I must try & process.
“Goodnight” in particular has broken something inside me, in a good way, though I’m not sure quite what yet. I’ll have a good cry, listen again & let it sit in my soul awhile."

I'm not going to say that this is what it's all about, but I can't think of any better reasons to be making music at the moment.

Give it another 10 years and I might find a third fan. ;)

I've not experienced that exact response to your music Drew but it's very evocative for me in my own ways and I grok where your correspondent is coming from. I'm glad they gave you that feedback, it's well deserved :thumbup::clap:
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Thanks Eddy, your fiver is in the post. ;)
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Re: Emotional music composition

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Arpangel wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:36 pm
OneWorld wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:21 pm Music is like any other trade, like a bricklayer for instance, if you're any good, they'll call you, if you're not so good, you call them.

A friend of mine for instance is never short of work, why? he's a good brickie, he gets so many offers of work he's turning more work away than work he accepts, he's like the Taylor Swift of brick-laying. Another pal of mine, another brickie, scrats about doing bits and bobs, he thinks and opines a lot, but that's about as far as he gets

Building a wall? It’s either straight and level, or it’s wrong.
Making music, well?

Same difference, only 2 kinds of music - good, and krap.

It's either straight and level, or it's wrong - the Great Wall of China isn't straight and level, but seeing as it's still stood, it must be right (opposite of wrong)

Are you inferring a builder only builds walls? That's like saying musicians can only play a 3 chord trick. They build houses too, and when a house becomes a home, it can have an emotional currency too.

Thing is with music, or more to the point musicians - we are pathologically pre-disposed to take ourselves too seriously. That said, when I have listened to interviews with the 'greats', nay, the 'legends' of music making, it is sort of encouraging how so many of them, are very matter of fact, grounded and quite humbled and pragmatic. The sort of people you could imagine having a pint with and a bit of banter down the pub. They are good at what they do and and what they do is good, that's about the extent of their self-analysis, "I got money in the bank, so I must be doing something right"
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